Im getting the feeling that too much is happening the last couple of weeks for my liking.
Lots of current events,lots of geopolitics, and more people, on this website
Talk of June deadlines with NATO,Saudi money moving to Europe.
In a nutshell,too much too fast.
I dont like it.Something is going to go down soon.
PeakOil is You
Signs
First unread post • 10 posts
• Page 1 of 1
Yeah, I am getting a bit jittery...
by UIUCstudent01 » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 02:57:52
The increased amount of people to the website might be actually what's causing the increased news reported, slightly. I am getting jittery with all this news coming in, it seems like the world is shifting into exactly what has been predicted... 
And I haven't heard anything from Bush. The thing is, the draft board committee I believe is supposed to be ready by March 31st too. (That bothers me because A. University students aren't exempt B. Canada isn't an option C. The President and his advisors could be trying all they can to prevent a die-off, but may actually kinda embrace it and say, lets send all these kid off to war to secure resources and pay back the national debt and all; alot of them will be dying soon enough.)
Future seems bleak, yet my present is still unaffected. It's strange, I look at cars and trucks walking to my classes and think that in 25 years or so that they are going to be complete junk.
And I haven't heard anything from Bush. The thing is, the draft board committee I believe is supposed to be ready by March 31st too. (That bothers me because A. University students aren't exempt B. Canada isn't an option C. The President and his advisors could be trying all they can to prevent a die-off, but may actually kinda embrace it and say, lets send all these kid off to war to secure resources and pay back the national debt and all; alot of them will be dying soon enough.)
Future seems bleak, yet my present is still unaffected. It's strange, I look at cars and trucks walking to my classes and think that in 25 years or so that they are going to be complete junk.
-
UIUCstudent01 - Tar Sands
- Posts: 838
- Joined: Thu 10 Mar 2005, 04:00:00
Re: Signs
by Eteonian » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 05:43:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('spear', 'I')m getting the feeling that too much is happening the last couple of weeks for my liking.
Lots of current events,lots of geopolitics, and more people, on this website
Talk of June deadlines with NATO,Saudi money moving to Europe.
In a nutshell,too much too fast.
I dont like it.Something is going to go down soon.
Lots of current events,lots of geopolitics, and more people, on this website
Talk of June deadlines with NATO,Saudi money moving to Europe.
In a nutshell,too much too fast.
I dont like it.Something is going to go down soon.
You are right there spear, too much news indeed. In my opinion 'Geopolitical fluidity' has moved up several notches and the chess pieces are being moved which creates a lot of news. When you see the wave it's too late.
As to the draft UIUCstudent01, look at announcements in May. The Iran invasion is according to the pundits apparantly scheduled for antytime after June and troops will be required.
I must say that most of the time now I am at a stage where I feel like: let's get it over and done with. I am sick of the blinded rabbit state.
- Eteonian
- Wood
- Posts: 45
- Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005, 04:00:00
by smiley » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 06:20:46
When I stumbled across Peakoil a few years back, it was just a interesting theory for me to debunk. Really, my first thought was: "As nice and interesting as this theory is, it is not true, and I'm going to show them why".
After a few months I started realizing that I couldn't shoot any holes in the theory. I slowly became convinced that it must be true. But still I saw it as an academic thing. I wasn't able to relate the dots on the charts with the real world I live in.
If I look back I see that a lot has changed between then and now.
I just have to walk down the street to the gas station and look at the sign. It says 1.30 euro a liter where it used to be close to one euro.
When I turn all the television, I see that all the news channels are focused on two events only: Michael Jackson's trial and the OPEC meeting today. Since when did OPEC became just as important as Michael Jackson?
Two years back I was the only one talking about oil, and everyone wanted me to shut up. Now everyone is talking about oil and I'm wishing them to shut up.
Like you say the pace at which the events are unfolding is accelerating. With that the realization slowly starts to sink in, that peakoil is something real, that humankind is slowly approaching one of its defining moments, and that I am caught right in the middle of it.
After a few months I started realizing that I couldn't shoot any holes in the theory. I slowly became convinced that it must be true. But still I saw it as an academic thing. I wasn't able to relate the dots on the charts with the real world I live in.
If I look back I see that a lot has changed between then and now.
I just have to walk down the street to the gas station and look at the sign. It says 1.30 euro a liter where it used to be close to one euro.
When I turn all the television, I see that all the news channels are focused on two events only: Michael Jackson's trial and the OPEC meeting today. Since when did OPEC became just as important as Michael Jackson?
Two years back I was the only one talking about oil, and everyone wanted me to shut up. Now everyone is talking about oil and I'm wishing them to shut up.
Like you say the pace at which the events are unfolding is accelerating. With that the realization slowly starts to sink in, that peakoil is something real, that humankind is slowly approaching one of its defining moments, and that I am caught right in the middle of it.
-
smiley - Intermediate Crude
- Posts: 2274
- Joined: Fri 16 Apr 2004, 03:00:00
- Location: Europe
Re: Signs
by eric_b » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 08:55:25
Yes I feel the same way.
Things sure feel like they're quickening. I get the feeling there's
a whole lot going on 'behind the scenes' that we aren't
privy to, especially here in the US. The US (and the World) have
changed considerably in just the past 10-15 years. And I feel
we've just begun the slide.
For years and years I wanted peak oil to arrive. I wanted us
to run out of oil - I admit it. But now that the peak really does
appear to be almost upon us I'm backpedaling.
-Eric B
Things sure feel like they're quickening. I get the feeling there's
a whole lot going on 'behind the scenes' that we aren't
privy to, especially here in the US. The US (and the World) have
changed considerably in just the past 10-15 years. And I feel
we've just begun the slide.
For years and years I wanted peak oil to arrive. I wanted us
to run out of oil - I admit it. But now that the peak really does
appear to be almost upon us I'm backpedaling.
-Eric B
-
eric_b - Heavy Crude
- Posts: 1174
- Joined: Fri 14 Jan 2005, 04:00:00
- Location: us
by JR » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 09:12:18
Yikes...are thing falling apart already? I thought we had a few years left. I just read a post at one of the ROE groups...and Matt posted he is going to be packing up shop and heading for the hills.
I thought we had a few years left to prepare.....
JR
I thought we had a few years left to prepare.....
JR
- JR
- Peat
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Sun 16 May 2004, 03:00:00
- Location: Rural, Indiana.
by chris-h » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 14:12:19
Peak oil has not happened yet.
What has happened is that demand is now almost equal to maximum production and since the peak is close the age of cheap energy is finally over.
This means that big economic crisis is on the horizon but the oil production terminal decline has not started yet.
So it is not time yet to run to the hills.
What has happened is that demand is now almost equal to maximum production and since the peak is close the age of cheap energy is finally over.
This means that big economic crisis is on the horizon but the oil production terminal decline has not started yet.
So it is not time yet to run to the hills.
88822-88822=0
- chris-h
- Coal
- Posts: 414
- Joined: Mon 11 Oct 2004, 03:00:00
by DomusAlbion » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 14:19:56
"Signs and Portents"
It is the Zeitgeist of our era. We can feel it coming (well some of us) and it feels a lot like one hears about before the big war. Tensions are building all over the world and a sense that things will begin to unravel soon because the status quo can not be maintained.
It is the Zeitgeist of our era. We can feel it coming (well some of us) and it feels a lot like one hears about before the big war. Tensions are building all over the world and a sense that things will begin to unravel soon because the status quo can not be maintained.
"Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
-
DomusAlbion - Expert
- Posts: 1979
- Joined: Wed 08 Dec 2004, 04:00:00
- Location: Beyond the Pale
by Eteonian » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 17:23:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('chris-h', 'P')eak oil has not happened yet.
What has happened is that demand is now almost equal to maximum production and since the peak is close the age of cheap energy is finally over.
This means that big economic crisis is on the horizon but the oil production terminal decline has not started yet.
So it is not time yet to run to the hills.
What has happened is that demand is now almost equal to maximum production and since the peak is close the age of cheap energy is finally over.
This means that big economic crisis is on the horizon but the oil production terminal decline has not started yet.
So it is not time yet to run to the hills.
You are right chris-h, I think the 'technical peak' is still some months (up to 36) out but I strongly believe that the economic impact of demand outstripping supply will be severe enough and offer people the most convenient excuse not to deal with PO. There is already no shortage of conservative financial houses explaining current prices away with the 'market mechanism'. It is just so much harder to look at the terminal nature of PO. Who wants to deal with resource depletion issues if we are already struggeling with an economic meltdown - never mind that the meltddowns causes are the depletion and infrastructure capacity constraints.
- Eteonian
- Wood
- Posts: 45
- Joined: Sun 09 Jan 2005, 04:00:00
10 posts
• Page 1 of 1
Return to Open Topic Discussion
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests