[sciencegirl]

Peak oil could destroy our way of life.

Their is only one way to fix the problem, and that is to kill off the population.

How you ask

It cannot be by a biological weapon, to much risk of mutation. It may kill everyone

Not nuclear because if one country nukes another, it may cause retaliation, not to mention nuclear winter.

I seen this u-tube video that suggests that population reduction may be brought about by altering our food.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SliRq4jQ2eE

Population reduction could be done by outlawing nutrients and adding cancer causing agents by 2010

Think about 2010, by that time oil should be VERY high, and food very EXPENSIVE. Their should be major food shortages at that time. So what happens when you are eating 1 meal a day and the food is devoid of nutrients ?

Simple, YOU DIE.

If that does not kill you then the cancer causing agents will wreck havoc on your weakened immune system and kill you anyways. Starvation and cancer do not spread, so the wealthy should be protected.

THE RESULT:

3 billion dead

What happens at the point:

We probably have enough oil for another 100 years, and the empire continues......


THE END.

---Watch the video, tell me what you think
If you believe me than the best thing to do is to buy food and vitamins and store them. The video says this will be implemented Dec 31, 2009 after that date, do not buy or eat the food. Pull out your stash and eat that.

[burtonridr]

Oh please... and how would "they" do such a thing?

You do realize that our food sources come from citizens... not the US government right?

This theory of yours couldnt even come close to reality...

[sciencegirl]

It will be something implemented into law. Food is processed, and the food manufacturers (Kelloggs, Kraft, etc) are subjected to law. Not many people eat raw food, so most is manufactured. Laws can easily change, seeds can and are being genetically modified.

Do you think that the powers that be are going to let the empire be destroyed or engineer a plot to save the empire by destroying the population.

You ever hear the story of the hunters that got lost in the woods and the only thing they could find to eat was rabbit. So they ate rabbit for a month and then died of malnutrition. Well rabbits are so devoid of nutrients that you die from it. You lose your store of vitamins and then die.

I believe when stuff like this happens in the world for real, it will just be blamed on something else, like a lack of food.

The empire must continue and the rich and wealthy will see to it.

[Nogloom]

Maybe we all stop eating fast food and cooking again, this will save driving, and decrease oil use and prices will drop and everything will be fine again.

I hope to buy a large yacht in a few years so gas prices have to come down.

[sciencegirl]

Sorry to say Nogloom, but that will not change anything. Even if you spend less and save more money it only increases the problem. The more money you save in the bank the more banks can lend to others, and that increases the spending habits of others. So that requires even more energy to be used.

This is off topic for this post though, so I won't say anymore about it.

Also Nogloom welcome to the forum.

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', 'I')t will be something implemented into law. Food is processed, and the food manufacturers (Kelloggs, Kraft, etc) are subjected to law. Not many people eat raw food, so most is manufactured. Laws can easily change, seeds can and are being genetically modified.

[darwinsdog]

This thread is silly, but a couple points anyway:

A steady diet of rabbit or other exclusively animal tissue results in scurvy, an ascorbic acid deficiency. It usually isn't fatal & takes more than one month to develop.

Biological warfare won't be directed against humans, per se. It will be directed against our staple cereal grains & legumes. An oomycote recombinantly engineered for enhanced transmissiblity & virulence could bring down any given year's standing crop of rice, wheat, maize, soya... The ensuing famine would be dread. The technology to create such a pathogen is much more readily available than is that required to build a nuclear explosive device.

Whatever the mechanism, human population reduction will be effected. The human census number is drastically in excess of the biosphere's carrying capacity (K), sans fossil fuels. Populations that exceed K crash. It's a given.

[sciencegirl]

You make excellent points DarwinsDog, I think something like this will be happening in the near future. If it's true that the upper class rule the world and they could do something to drastically delay peak oil, then I am pretty sure that they would. If you had cancer in your leg, how many of us would cut off our leg in order to survive.

If population destruction is the only way to stop peak oil (for the next 100 years) then why would it not be considered.

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', 'Y')ou make excellent points DarwinsDog, I think something like this will be happening in the near future. If it's true that the upper class rule the world and they could do something to drastically delay peak oil, then I am pretty sure that they would. If you had cancer in your leg, how many of us would cut off our leg in order to survive.

If population destruction is the only way to stop peak oil (for the next 100 years) then why would it not be considered.

[Ludi]

Killing the people who support you doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Our society is a big pyramid scheme. You can't kill those at the bottom (in vast numbers) without the whole thing collapsing.

Just my naive opinion.

[stu]

So you're advocating genocide then.

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'K')illing the people who support you doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Our society is a big pyramid scheme. You can't kill those at the bottom (in vast numbers) without the whole thing collapsing.

Just my naive opinion.

[stu]

I do agree that everything has it's limits, even the population of the human race. However when it comes to trying to reduce the numbers don't you think there are more humane methods to be considered first before deciding to "poison" everyone.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', 'I')f it's true that the upper class rule the world and they could do something to drastically delay peak oil, then I am pretty sure that they would.

[sciencegirl]

If we need 85 million barrels per day to survive currently, would that not mean we would only need 42.5 million barrels per day if the human population was cut in half

[Ludi]

If the population were cut in half suddenly as you posit, there would be no functioning infrastructure/labor to provide the oil and petroleum products. The world economy would be destroyed.

[kpeavey]

Normally I would discard this notion as tinfoil hat/paranoia/conspiracy theory.

I'm taking a deeper look. I'll be back when my homework is developed.

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')f the population were cut in half suddenly as you posit, there would be no functioning infrastructure/labor to provide the oil and petroleum products. The world economy would be destroyed.

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')f the population were cut in half suddenly as you posit, there would be no functioning infrastructure/labor to provide the oil and petroleum products. The world economy would be destroyed.

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('burtonridr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')f the population were cut in half suddenly as you posit, there would be no functioning infrastructure/labor to provide the oil and petroleum products. The world economy would be destroyed.