well, I don't suppose I'll ever say F it, but I sure get frustrated. My PO aware friend at work suggested today I "come down to earth" with regards to PO; he said that people on PO.com are rather alarmist and certainly not in touch with whats really going on.... arrrggghhh
THEN my millionare sister who has retired in Pagosa Springs after making a fortune off of the sub-prime scam stuff came to visit us yesterday...when I mentioned that I am looking at solar systems she casually said that "yes, their house is off the grid", all solar, passive solar, cachement systems, woodstove, etc. and that they really weren't concerned about PO or rising energy costs, that actually it probably wasn't that bad, people just need to stay in one room in the winter.
She came down here to Texas to look at colleges for her daughter two years from now. I didn't say anything about whether I thought there would be any colleges in two years.
She gave me a book to read "Our American King" by David Lozell Martin about a post PO USA and the search for a new king for the US and told me that I have an overactive imagination. arrrggghhhh
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At what point do you say F it?
Re: At what point do you say F it?
by JJ » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 13:46:41
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Re: At what point do you say F it?
by Ferretlover » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:56:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'w')ell, I don't suppose I'll ever say F it, but I sure get frustrated. My PO aware friend at work suggested today I "come down to earth" with regards to PO; he said that people on PO.com are rather alarmist and certainly not in touch with whats really going on.... arrrggghhh
lol That's kinda like saying "if you don't support the troops, you're a traitor." If they can get you to agree with them, or at least stop talking about the future, then they don't have to think or worry-their lifestyle won't be disturbed. And, that's all that really matters to them.
"Open the gates of hell!" ~Morgan Freeman's character in the movie, Olympus Has Fallen.
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Re: At what point do you say F it?
by Heineken » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 17:17:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '"')Never give up! Never surrender!"
(extra special points to anyone who identifies that quote
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(extra special points to anyone who identifies that quote
)Hitler in the bunker.
"Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---I & my bro.
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"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---I & my bro.
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Re: At what point do you say F it?
by americandream » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 19:28:46
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Commanding_Heights', 'I')'ve seen a lot of posts on these boards where people seem to think survival at any cost is the answer. They seem to think survival is some sort of boy scout adventure. Would you really want to go on living locked in a bunker all alone? What happens if your family and friends are caught up in this mass die off that so many seem to yearn for? Don't get me wrong. I'll fight as hard as I can to protect everything near and dear to me but if I can't then to me it's not worth continuing.
So the question is, at what point do you say f**k it?
So the question is, at what point do you say f**k it?
For me it's not really a question of personal survival. I frankly do not see the global capitalist system tumbling in a swift and catastrophic flash. With the introduction of China and India to the growth equation, things are no longer as simple as they may have been in decades gone by.
Alongside the progressive demise of a non-sustainable system of resource usage, we will have the bewildering contradiction of growth spurts as the fledgling momentum for growth in the Asian giants sporadically cancels out the long term down trend.
All this essentially means is that the quality of life will degenerate progressively and almost imperceptibly, as does the scope of our technological civilisation. Wars and brutality will become the norm as we regress into an earlier barbaric stage. And the fruits of our intellectual traditions will be lost as well in the process.
What we are witnessing is the gradual turning out of the lights of human civilisation and endeavour. After having read Karl Marx at university, I have been convinced that this would come to pass. So yeah, personal survival is not so much an issue with me as the demise of our collective achievements as a species. Perhaps you might say that I feel a deep sense of regret for the loss of what might have been attainable by us as a sentient species had reason reigned supreme.
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Re: At what point do you say F it?
by alpha480v » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 19:41:53
I will never give up and say F it. I will try to survive and protect my family the best I can. If I die I die. At least I will have tried.
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Re: At what point do you say F it?
by drew » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 19:42:06
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'W')ho is Boo Ya?
......probably no one, but perhaps the OP is a Jim Cramer fan!
BBBBOOOOOOOO-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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