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Look at the West's leaders - and be afraid

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Re: Look at the West's leaders - and be afraid

Unread postby CarlosFerreira » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 07:52:17

Here's another one, from those nice guys at The Oil Drum Europe:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4257

This one has pictures on as well! :evil:
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Re: Look at the West's leaders - and be afraid

Unread postby Twilight » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 08:29:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'I')nteresting comments at the bottom.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') never understood what it was about Western ideologues who got so fixated about "Communism" that they didn't see the national interests behind it. Whatever political system runs Russia (or China or a host of other nations) its reasonable to assume that they're going to put their national interests and security first.

The fix is to have a national interest.


That pretty much nails the leadership issue. Except I would modify that with a "perceived".

Individuals have delegated responsibility to the State, and the State has abdicated it. Or delegated it to the aggregate forces of society. Our leaders have replaced action with "creating a policy framework" then waiting for their goals to be achieved for them as if by some ghost in the machine.
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Re: Look at the West's leaders - and be afraid

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 08:38:07

"Today, our leaders do not even tell us what is wrong, let alone how to put it right."

Quite true.
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Re: Look at the West's leaders - and be afraid

Unread postby FourOfSwords » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 08:40:02

To paraphrase one of Isaac Asimovs characters in the Foundation Series; " The Global Empire is dying".
This is what we face here in our world today. We have world leaders ensconced in their capitals like emperors in their palaces, who are out of touch with the greater world.
I look at these men and women who are supposed to guide our civilization, and I shudder.
Alex, jumps back into reading the Foundation Series, looking for a real life version of Hari Seldons Pychohistory...
The bigger you build the bonfire, the more darkness is revealed."

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