[vision-master]

Today I looked at the Yamaha Vino 125cc scooter. I'm to cheap to cough up the $3,000 right now. 80 mpg sure sounds good anyhoo. Should I or shouldn't I? This is a big ticket item for me in these times. Think I'll wait and but more food stuff.

[FoxV]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', 'I') see dead people. 20-something year old couples, with 1-2 small children, 1-2 toddlers, driving SUVs or Mini Vans, buying toys, eating pizza at Sbarro's,

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vetusfirma', 'D')oes knowing make you happier? Or will your last good days be filled with anguish?

[JPL]

People are amazing sometimes. Right up to the moment when the ship crashes into 'Terra Nova' the passengers will still be arguing about who had the last coffee out of the vending machine.

Growl...

JP

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'T')hey are real people with real lives and some of them are smarter and more resourceful than you are.

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'S')uch people used to anger me, stealing the future for their own egos. Now I just laugh. Every day now I see a big truck with a missy or a he-man at the wheel and my jaw almost drops in disbelief. Can they be so dumb and vain? Loosers

[sicophiliac]

I can relate to what you say, I drive home from work out on the weekends and when me and my girlfriend go out to dinner sometimes I kind of pity some of these restaurant/small business owners knowing what is coming. People investing tens of thousands of dollars into their businesses and countless hours of hard work only to have it all wiped away in a few years as the economy implodes. Many honest hard working people out there are going to get financially crushed soon and I don't think they have much of a clue (though with the economy the way it is many probably do by now)
The flip side of that is that I get frustrated by the shallowness and simple lack of intellectual curiosity demonstrated by 90% of the people I know. For example the Mega Disasters show on the History Channel on the peak oil issue came on once at a friends house and as it started my friends girlfriend came in and said "whats this?... uhhh a documentary on the History Channel... boring" Then she fell asleep. I thought to myself "you'll find out the hard way in a few years when your begging for food or living in a slum somewhere whoring yourself to survive" Granted most of my friends are at least somewhat peak oil aware and I have woken a few up to the issue a couple years back. But still most are clueless, more concerned with reality TV or football or basketball. What is at the root of it I often ask myself? Why are so many content with ignorance and occupying their minds with petty meaningless crap while others crave knowledge and understanding and at least try to grasp the big picture. Is it raw intelligence or is a personality trait or does it have to do with the environment people are raised in ? As I have said before I feel bad for a lot of people out there but at the same time I feel resentment towards them. After all its partially due to the ignorance of the masses that we are in this mess to begin with.

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', 'F')or example in years gone past the smart thing to do may have been McMansion and SUV who knows what tomorrow brings.

[Vogelzang]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', 'F')or the last few weeks I've been working nex to a cute suburban mall. You know, the standard AMC theaters, marry-go-around, food court, JC Penny's, etc, type of mall.

I go there for lunch. I had a smoothie today.

I see dead people. 20-something year old couples, with 1-2 small children, 1-2 toddlers, driving SUVs or Mini Vans, buying toys, eating pizza at Sbarro's, all while crude oil and gasoline just hit another record high, mortgage crisis, credit card crisis, inflation, unemployment, war, food shortage, the works. There is no way these folks will live or survive long.

I see dead people. Do you?

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', '.')..friends recently purchased large mansions 30 miles away from downtown Houston. 2 cars in the garage one being an SUV. All purchased with credit ... another friend yuppie calling me other day how to buy a $55K BMW with a credit card ... Used to work for a large utility company in downtown Houston. My manager bought a 8 cyl Toyota Seq driving to The Woodlands everyday. She also had a mansion being built in Conroe...

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'I') see unemployed masses sharecropping on a nice plantation.

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '.')..it may be an emotional expression of disengaging from the reality many of us were raised in and thought was normal and would go on forever.

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FoxV', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', 'I') see dead people. 20-something year old couples, with 1-2 small children, 1-2 toddlers, driving SUVs or Mini Vans, buying toys, eating pizza at Sbarro's,

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '.').. surely most people have a basic awareness of the core systems that keep them alive & fed, and also opinions about the future direction of the same, don't they? I mean they must do. No-one could be that stupid, could they???

[GeneralGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', '
')I see dead people. 20-something year old couples, with 1-2 small children, 1-2 toddlers, driving SUVs or Mini Vans, buying toys, eating pizza at Sbarro's, all while crude oil and gasoline just hit another record high, mortgage crisis, credit card crisis, inflation, unemployment, war, food shortage, the works. There is no way these folks will live or survive long.

I see dead people. Do you?

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '.').. surely most people have a basic awareness of the core systems that keep them alive & fed, and also opinions about the future direction of the same, don't they? I mean they must do. No-one could be that stupid, could they???

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GeneralGreen', '
')
* Depends where they live. If in the UK that 20 years old couple has about 10-14 years left to live before they starve to death.
If they are American city thugs...They have less to live. I expect cities to be war zones of gangs "esp in multicultural cities" post peak.
I figure by 2030 over 3 billion people will die to ,starvation, disease, pestilence, and war. The West will also pay the piper.
On Starvation- Most western households have about 2-3 months of food supplies in cans ect....If thier are famines in the land and serve food shortage most people will be dead in 6 months. Mainly elderly first, then men...then kids and then women...Women are natural survivors. In starvation one can go about 3-4 months on 500 calories a day. Ration if any will likely be half of that

[Pops]

Naw, I see people adapting.

I see dead people was in a movie.