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This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 20:00:14

After reading through this, it's hard to come to any other conclusion: We're in the first stages of TS really beginning to HTF.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hile last week started quietly, Thursday and Friday turned into a frenzy, with prices surging from a low of $132 a barrel on Wednesday to touch a new high of $142.99 on Friday...

...While the effects of $200 oil seem analyzable, others are beginning to talk of the possibility or the likelihood of $300, $500 and even $600 oil 4 or 5 years from now. As yet no one seems to be thinking through the implications for society should oil reach these prices in a short time...

...Largely unreported in the American media is the growing frequency of electricity, diesel, and gasoline shortages around the world...

...Major economic projects are being cancelled due to the shortages. Last week a $2.7 billion aluminum smelter in South Africa was put on hold until there is enough power to operate the facility...

No, there won't be a worldwide overnight collapse. Instead, we'll see a steady, gradual deterioration much as we're seeing now, and it will go on and on indefinitely.

We've said it here so many times: This won't end well.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 21:10:45

if we see a part where people bulldoze some of the un-occupied foreclosed homes in a suburban area and turn it into farm intermingled with houses, it won't be all bad.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby joewp » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 21:26:53

Here's a project that's not only a major economic project, it's a major "national pride" thing that I'm willing to bet will never get built, and it's all because of PO
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')EW YORK, June 30 (Reuters) - Rebuilding at the World Trade Center, site of the Sept. 11 attacks, is behind schedule and over budget, and major problems mean new cost estimates and timetable must be drawn up, officials said on Monday. ...
The centerpiece of the rebuilding effort, the Freedom Tower had been due for completion in 2011. At 1,776 feet (541 metres) it would be the tallest building in the United States. ...
The project's $14 billion cost keeps rising as commodity prices soar and the 19 federal, state and city agencies that are all involved fail to solve logjams.

This failed re-building project will end up symbolizing the fade away of the American empire. This shit will be dribbling into the fan for the next 5 years at least, via more and more delays and cost overruns. It's a receding horizon.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 22:17:22

I'm waiting for someone to implement rationing on excess lighting, to provide excess demand for millions of heating oil users resorting to electric heaters this winter.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')lobal lighting electricity use is distributed approximately 28% to the residential sector, 48% to the service sector, 16% to the industrial sector, and 8% to street and other lighting. The corresponding carbon dioxide emissions are 1775 million metric tonnes per year. Lighting electricity demand in the 23 International Energy Agency (IEA) countries represents approximately half of the world’s total lighting use.


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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby Rogozhin » Mon 30 Jun 2008, 22:26:24

I wouldn't have thought that residential would be that large of a percentage of the pie!
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby DefiledEngine » Tue 01 Jul 2008, 02:31:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')No, there won't be a worldwide overnight collapse. Instead, we'll see a steady, gradual deterioration much as we're seeing now, and it will go on and on indefinitely.


Indeed, it has always been about a long emergency leading up to wars giving quick collapses in certain areas, probably resulting in brief periods of positive trends as energy use is released.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Tue 01 Jul 2008, 18:39:57

Bah. TS is nowhere near TF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w91-GMc3j7I

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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 01 Jul 2008, 18:52:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rogozhin', 'I') wouldn't have thought that residential would be that large of a percentage of the pie!


And people wonder why the government sees the need to phase out incandescents.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby socrates1fan » Tue 01 Jul 2008, 18:55:17

Sorry to sound ignorant.
What is TSHTF?
Should I be knowing this?
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby big_rc » Tue 01 Jul 2008, 19:41:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('socrates1fan', 'S')orry to sound ignorant.
What is TSHTF?
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 02 Jul 2008, 05:28:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '
')This failed re-building project will end up symbolizing the fade away of the American empire. This crap will be dribbling into the fan for the next 5 years at least, via more and more delays and cost overruns. It's a receding horizon.


Even if it gets finished I doubt they'd find enough tenants to fill it. So maybe it's better that way.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby Rogozhin » Wed 02 Jul 2008, 05:47:35

No it's not.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby kublikhan » Wed 02 Jul 2008, 06:51:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', 'i')f we see a part where people bulldoze some of the un-occupied foreclosed homes in a suburban area and turn it into farm intermingled with houses, it won't be all bad.
You mean we should copy the Detroit "model"?
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby Muckingfess » Wed 02 Jul 2008, 07:22:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kublikhan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', 'i')f we see a part where people bulldoze some of the un-occupied foreclosed homes in a suburban area and turn it into farm intermingled with houses, it won't be all bad.
You mean we should copy the Detroit "model"? Urban MicroFarming

Looks like that might be a suggestion for some of that Mississippi Delta land, you know, New Orleans.
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Re: This week's TS is starting to HTF report

Unread postby TheDude » Wed 02 Jul 2008, 08:05:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rogozhin', 'I') wouldn't have thought that residential would be that large of a percentage of the pie!


Yep. Think about all the lights in your average supermarket, just to simulate daytime so consumers can tell how much of a discount they're getting on Twinkies, or overcome chronic depression. Not exactly critical. Maintaining the grid when you have sky high fuel prices or rationing may be another ball of wax though.
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