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Re: Another Record ($142.83)

Unread postby crossthread » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:23:21

Ditto same here..
These NO Speculating involved...
Until you can PHYSICALLY take the Oil off the Market, theres No Speculation..
Supply Demand Issue..
Watch What R.S. says in the last 5 minutes of this video...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=779985121&play=1
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Re: Another Record ($142.26)

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:23:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'n')ot really. In the same website there is a "live crude oil" and a "live brent oil". So at least, the prices I'm quoting are NOT brent.


My apologies. So I've got 142.99 as the current high.
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Re: Another Record ($142.26)

Unread postby bodigami » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:48:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'n')ot really. In the same website there is a "live crude oil" and a "live brent oil". So at least, the prices I'm quoting are NOT brent.


My apologies. So I've got 142.99 as the current high.


that's the chart I've prefered so far; but the highs changes slightly depending on parameters. At 10 sec, 500 units, it seems to be $143.04.

Right now it's $140.73

...the price lows are barely on $139, what does this means? Is it too soon to say that the markets are testing $138 as "floor"?
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 14:55:55

I like Barchart.com:

http://www2.barchart.com/mktcom.asp?section=energies

Their chart displays the high for the session along with the current price.

(Meanwhile, on the spot market, Tapis is over $147...)
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 15:33:48

lol how many Yergins are we up to now?
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 15:35:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'l')ol how many Yergins are we up to now?


Over 3.7 Yergins. 8)
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby bodigami » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 15:49:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'l')ol how many Yergins are we up to now?


what is a "yergin"?
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 15:56:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'l')ol how many Yergins are we up to now?


what is a "yergin"?


A Yergin is $38/bbl, or what Yergin predicted in November 2004 would be the price of crude in November of 2005. It was actually in the mid $60s.

Daniel Yergin Day

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n a column in Forbes Magazine, published on 11/1/04, Daniel Yergin, in response to a question about the future direction of oil prices, dismissed concerns about oil supplies and asserted that oil prices on 11/1/05 would at $38 per barrel.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby charliehelyes » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 17:28:37

cor blimey price is a bit high mate
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby sparky » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 19:11:59

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on how much gas is in a Gallon

The costs have to be adjusted for today , the refining costs are also higger for sulfured , heavy oil
From
http://www.gravmag.com/oil3.html#barrel2

" The 42-gallon barrel of crude oil makes about 19½ gallons of gasoline, 9 gallons of fuel oil, 4 gallons of jet fuel, and 11 gallons of other products, including lubricants, kerosene, asphalt, and petrochemical feedstocks to make plastics. That adds up to more than 42 gallons because of something called "refinery gain" - the processing and chemical changes decrease the density and hence increase the volume of the refined components. So, crudely (pun intended), a $37 barrel of crude represents about 88 cents a gallon to start with. That 88c represents the cost of production plus producer profit. Go up from there

Numbers that I found some time ago had this for other increments of the cost per gallon:
refiner cost - 13c
marketing cost - 5c
transportation cost - 15c
retailer cost - 5c
refiner, marketer, transporter, retailer profit - 10c (total, not each)

Add that to 88c, add the average 43 cents tax, and -- rather remarkably - that adds up to $1.79, if I added correctly - just about what you are paying. All the numbers vary depending on a long list of things -- refiner costs go up when they have to make specialized local blends (one reason for CA and Chicago having higher prices), marketing costs are higher in competitive markets (i.e., big cities), transportation costs are higher in the boondocks, or generally in places distant from refineries, retailer costs depend on number of employees, whether or not it is a franchise (some rural stations that I know of here in Montana have to pay many thousands of dollars per year for the "right" to be branded Conoco, or whatever); and the total price also depends on differing state and local taxes. So these numbers would be ball-park, approximations. "


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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby lowem » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 12:22:28

Anyone wants to guess when we'll hit $150 oil?

1. Next year
2. Next quarter
3. Next month
4. Next week
5. Next trading day
6. ANY TIME NOW !!!

Me, I'd hazard sometime between next week and next month.
Any other opinions?

Update : check out the ongoing poll here.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 15:07:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', 'A')nyone wants to guess when we'll hit $150 oil?

1. Next year
2. Next quarter
3. Next month
4. Next week
5. Next trading day
6. ANY TIME NOW !!!

Me, I'd hazard sometime between next week and next month.
Any other opinions?

Update : check out the ongoing poll here.



$150.00 by Aug 1
$175.00 by Oct 1
$200.00 by Dec 31
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 19:31:39

Is there anyone that thinks we haven't peaked yet ?
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Last_Laff » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 19:46:06

Ironically this does not look like a peak, if ever.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Starvid » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 20:04:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I')s there anyone that thinks we haven't peaked yet ?
Me.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 21:26:11

This entire financial system is about ready to collapse, and the funny thing is 99.9% of the sheeple will never attribute it to peak oil. What a shame.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby patience » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 23:08:00

My $.02. The 3rd quarter this year looks real scary to me for the US economy, and probably some other places. What I've been reading the past year says the banks are propped up on a stack of worthless paper and a crutch provided by the Federal Reserve. If oil keeps going up by fits and starts like it has been, the grassroots in the US will be economic toast by Oct. - Dec., as the fuel induced price increases permeate everyday life. If the relationship of crude price to gasoline price is what I've been reading about, we have yet to catch up to $100 oil. When $140 oil is realized at the pump, then it will be what, $6.50/gallon when that gets to the pump? That will crash the retail economy but good.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby Novus » Sun 29 Jun 2008, 00:28:40

The retail economy was a joke anyway. It would have collapsed in a few years even if oil remained under $40.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby TreebeardsUncle » Sun 29 Jun 2008, 01:34:54

Still, don't think this is that big a deal, though we are closing in on the all liquids peak. When gas gets over $10/gallon and keeps going up, that is when things will get interesting.
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Re: Another Record ($142.99)

Unread postby sameu » Sun 29 Jun 2008, 10:32:34

offtopic

in belgium we've reached an inflationrate of 5.8%
the highest since 1984
also a nice record :-p

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