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Anthropology: Has Peak Intelligence hit?

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Unread postby BudDwyer » Fri 23 Jul 2004, 10:51:44

In reply to the original topic.
-Way to many variables and averages.
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A theory...

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Sun 25 Jul 2004, 03:00:15

Bud - on Peak IQ; you got it.
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I was contemplating human body morphology today in my tantric meditations. (as an aside, a Dzogchen master was quoted yesterday to me over the phone as saying that if we do not embrace pleasure and work with it fully, we can never achieve enlightenment < 8O > [freedom from Plato's Cave, if you will.])

As layers of self-cherishing melted away, it became blazingly clearer to me how unsuited we are for the dangers we face.

Regardless how attractive or repulsive a human being may be unclothed, one thing screams "misfit!" When you examine yourself as you are devoid of any accouterments, if your filtering doesn't edit it out, you will come to a very startling revelation: In our Class of the Phylum, our genotype renders a phenotype from birth to death that leaves us shockingly vulnerable to environmental conditions. We are hairless, soft and not able to tolerate extremes very well. We're almost always mobile food for something, somewhere, big or microscopic.

Witness:

Human (Homo sapiens)

$this->bbcode_list('1')Kingdom-------> Animalia
Phylum--------> Chordata
Subphylum----> Vertebrata
Class-----------> Mammalia
Subclass-------> Eutheria
Order----------> Primates
Suborder------> Catarrhini
Family---------> Hominidae
Genus----------> Homo
Species--------> sapiens
Subspecies----> sapiens

There is a psychology that must get built up around this to compensate for how utterly helpless and frightened we First World types must feel at our hyper-vulnerability. I see that other tribes of sapiens have been able to harden against the ravages of Nature by contriving various kinds of protective membranes to shield out the harm. But the rest of us have walked away from that sensibility. It must matter that the bulk of civilization has crept out on a precariously situated limb liable to instantaneous fracture at almost the slightest imbalance.

With the scientific method 'firmly' in hand, and stores of empirical data, I will set out to see if a tenable theory can be "fleshed" out that explains whether or not our apoplectic Peak Oil catalepsy traces its roots, at least in part, to our knowing, but systematically denying our insanely defenseless phenotype.

Anybody well versed in psychoneurobiology is invited to assist me in this effort.


Footnote: I find it darkly ironic that celebrated feminine defenselessness as a meme lays out a veritable pantheon of indulgent erotica that FAVORS rather than suppresses the predilection we maintain for natural unsuitedness to the environment. Think this through carefully; it's wicked. Or as someone once said, "Messieur, if there is a God, I can assure you, He is the Devil."
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It's Greek To Me!

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Archaeology Nov/Dec 2004

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Sun 17 Oct 2004, 17:01:19

Your Extended Family History

How far back can you trace your ancestry? Most folks lose the trail after a few generations. But paleoanthropologists have taken the human family tree back hundreds of thousands of years with recent fossil discoveries in Africa that are more than six million years old. In breezy documentary style, the two-hour-long A Species Odyssey (airing in December 12—13 on The Science Channel; check your local listings) tells the fascinating tale of how these early hominids gave rise to modern humans.

Today, Homo sapiens is the only human species, but for much of human history multiple hominid types shared the Earth. First there were Orrorin and Toumaï, the two earliest hominids in the fossil record, which may have over-lapped in time. Both eventually yielded to Australopithicus afarensis—Lucy and her kin—from whom the Homo line arose. Toward the end of A. afarensis' reign and the beginning of Homo's, about two and a half million years ago, at least four hominid species coexisted. How did they interact, if at all? A Species Odyssey offers intriguing possibilities, realized to varying degrees of success with computer-generated figures and masked actors.

Some of these hominids belonged to dead-end branches on the evolutionary tree, sidelined by species that walked, talked, and cooperated better. The film argues that Neandertals were one such group, out-competed by a cleverer hominid—modern H. sapiens.

A Species Odyssey is a Homeric tale: distant lands are visited, loves are lost, battles are won, and a hero, H. sapiens, is born. Like Homer, the program takes poetic license with its material. The story of human origins is a very messy one, but the documentary is quite pat. There is little discussion of how scientists know what they do about human evolution or the limitations of the data. Still, the film correctly places human evolution in the context of environmental change and credits our ancient forebears with more humanity than they are typically ascribed. It also underscores, some-what hamhandedly, that whatever our origins or physical differences today, this six-million-year history unites us all.

-- KATE WONG, editorial director of scientificamerican.com

{Excerpted from the November/December 2004 issue of Archaeology.}


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Unread postby bobcousins » Mon 18 Oct 2004, 16:22:56

Is there a translation of this thread to English?

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Unread postby EnviroEngr » Mon 18 Oct 2004, 18:52:18

Two AAAS resources that may come in handy.

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Unread postby stayathomedad » Mon 18 Oct 2004, 19:00:44

am i reading stuff on peak oil, or am i watching the commedy channel? 8O maybe i do need to get out more so I can pick up on the humor here :o
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Borges II

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Mon 18 Oct 2004, 19:55:23

Would I confuse the issue any more if I declared that I am the other Borges?
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Translating Babel

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Mon 18 Oct 2004, 20:13:13

... in which case,

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')s there a translation of this thread to English?


would go like this:

"Sí. Hay. Pero, yo no hablo inglés. Así, no puedo decirlo. ¿Me entiendes?"
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Unread postby stayathomedad » Tue 19 Oct 2004, 12:22:25

I wrote this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')m i reading stuff on peak oil, or am i watching the commedy channel? Shocked maybe i do need to get out more so I can pick up on the humor here Surprised


sorry folks, I screwed up the thread. I apologize, best regards.
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Unread postby EnviroEngr » Sat 05 Mar 2005, 18:42:35

AnnaLivia,

Try this one.
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Re: Starter Links

Unread postby TrueKaiser » Sat 05 Mar 2005, 19:36:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', '
')"The Truth Campaign was set up in 1996 by Ivan Fraser as a way to make available information which mainstream sources tend to suppress."


with good reason. i looked through there and it is just full of irrational fear mongering, especially when it starts to talk about the one world stuff and the un. it just gushes all the same new world order crap all over again amounting to basically.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')MG! the n.w.o. will take everything away from you, rape your wives and daughters and eat your babies!!!11!!11!!111!!


while the world army might be useful in a alien invasion, it still irrationality assumes all aliens are out to get us like we are something special, which we aren't. we are a relatively back water planet in a backwater solar system on the fringe of our galaxy.
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Re: Archaeology Nov/Dec 2004

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 07 Mar 2005, 21:03:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', ' ')about two and a half million years ago, at least four hominid species coexisted. How did they interact, if at all?
A terrific fictional treatment of this question was penned by William Golding (of Lord Of The Flies fame) in a book called The Inheritors. Written from the point of view of a band of Neanderthaals who have an ill-fated encounter with early humans.
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Unread postby bart » Tue 08 Mar 2005, 05:17:07

Yes! The Inheritors was a great book. Haunting, like Lord of the Flies.

The late great sf writer, Philip K. Dick, had an obsession about Neanderthals. (Didn't we talk about PKD, PenultimateManStanding?). They figured in several of his stories; PKD liked and felt sorry for them.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 08 Mar 2005, 19:45:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bart', 'Y')es! The Inheritors was a great book. Haunting, like Lord of the Flies.

The late great sf writer, Philip K. Dick, had an obsession about Neanderthals. (Didn't we talk about PKD, PenultimateManStanding?). They figured in several of his stories; PKD liked and felt sorry for them.
I don't think so, Bart. The last sf I tried to read was some kind of cyber punk or something. Very futuristic and full of new made-up words which I found annoying. Now Golding was able to suggest a strange (for us) view of the world without using anything but ordinary English words: arrow = stick with feathers, etc.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 08 Mar 2005, 20:07:41

I just remembered a cool detail about the stick with feathers: it had some black stuff on it that smelled of the-berries-that-you-don't-eat.
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Re: A theory...

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 08 Mar 2005, 20:38:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', '
')Footnote: I find it darkly ironic that celebrated feminine defenselessness as a meme lays out a veritable pantheon of indulgent erotica that FAVORS rather than suppresses the predilection we maintain for natural unsuitedness to the environment. Think this through carefully; it's wicked. Or as someone once said, "Messieur, if there is a God, I can assure you, He is the Devil."
I've come to view your posts, enviroman, as prose-poems, obscure but evocative. Here, for example, you seem to suggest that if human females were hairy, straight-hipped, prognathous with large amber-veined yellow teeth, perhaps with prominent brows and beady eyes then we males would be content to sleep in trees and eat bugs. And the Frenchman sounds like a classic Gnostic - looking out on the world from within the colon.
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Re: A theory...

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 09 Mar 2005, 03:45:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', '
') I will set out to see if a tenable theory can be "fleshed" out that explains whether or not our apoplectic Peak Oil catalepsy traces its roots, at least in part, to our knowing, but systematically denying our insanely defenseless phenotype.

Anybody well versed in psychoneurobiology is invited to assist me in this effort.
I am not knowledgable about psychoneurobiology, but I have a grasp of the nuances of language and willingness to come along with you in your thinking here. You must surely admit that occasionally exegesis of your writings can uncover humorous facets (such as in your remarks about female defenselessness and erotica). The quote I address here, though, points in a more tragic direction. The phrase 'apoplectic Peak Oil catalepsy' denotes, to me, a sort of deer-in-the-headlight paralysis - a turning away from reality. To link this to our 'insanely defenseless phenotype' puts a chilling light on the situation. The issue comes down to this: how much pain can we endure? Itch has been pointing out that we will need to get tough.
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Re: Long Haul

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 09 Mar 2005, 04:28:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', '
') Left Brainedness. With multiple intelligences, all capacities have their day in the sun. With left brainedness, we have what many critics have called the most destructive imbalance in the history of sapiens-sapiens. White coat, Jekyl & Hyde megalomanic puerility.
Left Brainedness is a blight on the soul if allowed to play a dominant role in life. It crushes spontanaiety, intuition, and above all, the ability to percieve the fleeting, ephemeral moments of revealed meanings that lie beneath the surface of everyday life. Left brain thinking, for instance, is completely at a loss when trying to make sense of a dream, a look on a face, or the tacit meanings of apparently casual remarks. Left brained thinking runs in my family. I myself had to fight off an early obsession with the game of Chess and dropped ideas about a career in computer programming after going to the trouble of obtaining a BS Computer Science degree back in the 80s. The subject was very interesting to me and I was good at it, but it felt like mental trap to have to use my brain like that to such an extent.
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Hooked up.

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Wed 09 Mar 2005, 12:55:56

I'll jump back in here in awhile.

No doubt about it, you're plugged in. I want to keep the momentum going 'cuz you're picking out exactly the subtleties that need to be expanded on.

Spot on with the "apoplectic Peak Oil catalepsy" analysis by the way.
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