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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 14:17:43

Keeping track of the time of year is not as easy as some would suppose. Even with the modern complex system we had to chop out 11 days in the 18th Century. Every fourth year a Leap Year except on certain centennials and so forth. Shouldn't be a problem for knowing when the solstices occur, but it can play havoc for record keeping and trying to keep the date straight. Besides, who says a week has seven days?
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 14:36:30

It's kind of like making a good Brioche from scratch. It seems very simple but there are many particulars. But it is possible and people are around who can do it.
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby Beignet2 » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 14:42:24

Follow the calendar of the old Hebrews or Mayan.

They had it down to the minute. Sunset and all.

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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 14:43:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'C')elestial observation for date calibration is possible and requires no high technology. Good lord. Sure, there are some that won't 'believe' it. There are people that don't believe the earth is not flat and that humans landed on the moon etc. So what? I don't believe the clock on my microwave.


Hell I havent set the clock on my microwave!
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 14:53:21

I think that after TSHTF we come up with new names for the months. How about "uno" "dos" "tres" "quatro" "wooly" "bully" "watchit" "now" "let's don't" "take "no" "chance." If we got really bold we could shorten the months so we could add "come" "& learn" "to dance." After all, the months are named by the Romans. Why should we let those old nazis name the calendar?
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby Lumpy » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 14:53:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'A')ll of those people and their ways are dead.

If we're too stupid to be able to figure out a way of keeping up with the date, then we deserve to be dead too. Not everybody is the kid at the McDonalds drive thru that can't figure out your change without a calculator.


Smallpoxgirl - Here is a major hug plus high five plus you-go-girl plus anything else that totally expresses KUDOS TO YOU. You nailed it here.

Roccman - Your thread initiations are smacking more and more of "ludicrous drama queen." You are fast becoming the Eric Cartman of PO boards.

BTW - What difference does it make if we celebrate right on the exact date each year? As it is, we try to do it somewhere around that date, based on when family can get together.

And, dude, if you find THAT depressing, you don't have a real life.

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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 15:01:54

Now I don't give a crap about birthdays or holidays or any such sort, but if you don't figure out a way to keep track of the days and months mainly for the seasonal changes how do you plan on having a productive harvest?
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby roccman » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 15:10:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'Y')ou don't have to be able to read the stars. You just have to be able to cross off one day at a time on a calendar (and possibly remember how many days are in each month so you can make the next calendar. Actually people will cling to such activities as a way of maintaining their sanity and sense of normalcy.

Just miss one day. THEN convince someone else you are right. Then miss one leap year... Sure. Uh - huh. Your dreaming.
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby roccman » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 15:13:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '[')b]Keeping track of the time of year is not as easy as some would suppose. Even with the modern complex system we had to chop out 11 days in the 18th Century. Every fourth year a Leap Year except on certain centennials and so forth. Shouldn't be a problem for knowing when the solstices occur, but it can play havoc for record keeping and trying to keep the date straight. Besides, who says a week has seven days?


Finally...a voice of reason.

Thanks bro.
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 15:25:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'B')esides, who says a week has seven days?


You raise an interesting point. How do we know the current date and time is accurate ? It is all supposedly based on some "atomic clock" at a government facility like NIST. Perhaps they have been slowing the clock down and we are all really very much older than we think we are. I feel that way sometimes. Or maybe they have sped up time and our supposed "longer lifespan" is all an illusion. Maybe the odd weather is really because the seasons are wrong. How would anybody be able to tell ?
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 15:25:08

It's realy not that hard people. Make a calendar for any year Print out 50 years of calendars.
Use the technology of today to help you when it's not there in the future.
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby mercurygirl » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 15:48:14

OK, this is rather ridiculous.

Ancient peoples used calendars that were extremely accurate. Some indigenous peoples may not have used calenders as we understand them, but they still knew the cycles and had long oral histories which included information about how the seasons behaved. They knew what to do with plants and when to do it, by WATCHING them. Any gardener knows you don't plant or harvest because of a number on the calender, you do it when it's time. You go feel the soil, or look at your tomatoes or heads of wheat. If the grain is about ready, but you can tell from the weather that storms are on the way, you get busy.

The holidays (holy days) we maintain now are but remnants of religious practices that actually meant something to our ancestors. The ones that are important to individuals will be kept by them, or new ones will be made. Does anyone really care about their birthday? IMO, celebrating the ghosts of days past is kind of sad and meaningless.
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 16:06:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'J')ust miss one day.

THEN convince someone else you are right.

Then miss one leap year...

Sure.

Uh - huh.

Your dreaming.


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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby Lumpy » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 16:51:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CarlinsDarlin', 'H')ere ya go, Rocc. Just print one out (or 3 dozen). Laminate them. Pass them down like treasured heirlooms. Now you won't have to worry for at least 10,000 years. After that I can't help ya much.

10,000 year calendar


Very cool, CD :-) Thanks for sharing.

We POers do share some of the most interesting (and useful) things sometimes!

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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 16:55:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')I think you're confusing Peak Oil with Gilligans Island.
We'll all be on Gilligan's Island before long wondering wtf day it is. Was it Monday or Tuesday when the zombies ate the neighbors?
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 17:06:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')I think you're confusing Peak Oil with Gilligans Island.
We'll all be on Gilligan's Island before long wondering wtf day it is. Was it Monday or Tuesday when the zombies ate the neighbors?


Must of been Tuesday as Monday is the Zombie day of rest (Sunday is a big night out for Zombies).

None of this time/season stuff will apply after Earth does its tippee top fliparoo anyway.
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Re: Would you know it was your birthday...

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Sun 22 Jun 2008, 07:18:30

So now Roccman has revealed another aspect of his rather complex make-up:


He's calendar challenged. :razz:
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