[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is problem #1. These economic reports, at least the ones that are publicly stated, have been tinkered with and watered down over the past few years so that the numbers will look good in the media. This is like doing a beautiful landscape painting on your car windshield. Looks good, but does not help you steer, and does not help you do any future planning.

[AlterEgo]

"Capitalism does not judge between Paris Hilton's use of fuel to have lunch in London versus the application of those BTU's to build solar panels for a sustainable future. It allots the BTUs to those able to afford them, regardless of the opportunity cost."

Cur on Capitalism

[wisconsin_cur]

Link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'I')magine the surface of the earth like the skin on a teenagers face. It seeps oil all over the place, except in a few places it gets trapped under a plugged pore, and it builds pressure until its about to pop.

The oil industry has popped all of the big zits on the worlds face, now it must go and dig out the blackheads and do face peels.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '[')url=http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic41755.html]Link[/url]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'I')magine the surface of the earth like the skin on a teenagers face. It seeps oil all over the place, except in a few places it gets trapped under a plugged pore, and it builds pressure until its about to pop.

The oil industry has popped all of the big zits on the worlds face, now it must go and dig out the blackheads and do face peels.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', ' ') One thing we like about this site is that it's largely free from partisan yawnfests.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snik', 'B')ack on track here. Whether we're all going to die from a terrible disease, or starve to death or whatever, we'll still want to be able to drive to work over the next few decades without having to mortgage our homes to do it.

Drilling. I'm not going to sit here and debate the finer points of what is out there to be found or not found in the way of oil and gas reserves. For over a century we have been proving people wrong in field after field after field. The reserves we've been able to get out of the ground have exceeded original calculations over and over again. We have found and produced oil and gas from places nobody thought we could, places where people didn't think there was even a possibility it existed. The vast majority of the oil and gas reserves in the world were found by American oil companies....American people.

People in the oil and gas industry in this country are some of the boldest, most innovative, most technologically advanced in the world. They have risked their livelihood, and, yes, their lives to get oil and gas out of the ground. They have a passion about what they do that is second to none, a passion that transends the monetary gain they get from success.

There is no other industry I know of where this country is as dominant as it is in oil and gas exploration.

All I have to say is JUST GET THE HECK OUT OF OUR WAY!. That's all we are asking.

[Quagmire]

.
BlisteredWhippet:

" I am not a hope merchant. I cannot tell you how far and wide I've looked for hope. There is no hope... Don't ask how I manage, at the fringe, walking between the raindrops. I start the morning at gun-to-the-head suicide level and work my way up. "

http://peakoil.com/fortopic23977-0-asc-90.html

and:

"The mass of humanity will walk backwards into the future, gaze fixed on the setting sun."

same.

[DantesPeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', ' ')The humans=yeast thing works if the petri dish is the universe and the sugar is the stars. We'll expand untill we can't. But yeast, while durable and profligate with reproduction, aren't technological and are stuck where the environment is kind enough to let yeast live.

Humans bend the environment to their wishes, and humans learn.

[CarlinsDarlin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass.

[AlterEgo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Modern civilization is like a 1970s-era custom van with an airbrushed mural of a great city on the side and a bumper sticker that says "If it feels good do it!", except that when the van doors open, instead of the scent of sinsemilla, a cloud of exhaust from fossil fuel burning drifts out."

[Homesteader]

MrBean wrote:

Homesteader wrote:

So what is "really becoming self-reliant and sustainable" specifically?
Forging their own metals? Producing their own pharmaceuticals? Performing surgery? Producing their own electronics? Manufacturing the replacement parts for their machinery?


In short: yes.

Link: http://www.peakoil.com/post705137.html#705137

[coyote]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blacksmith', 'W')hen you really think about it, the two cheapest things we have are food and gasoline.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'W')e were provided a one-time nest egg of non-renewable resources and we wasted them on an orgy of reproduction and consumption.

And here we are--overpopulated, alienated, and pumped up on hubris like a wrestler on steroids.

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')othing short of imminent catastrophic mass death will convince the current generation of indoctrinated consumers that the era of oil is over.

[kpeavey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'T')he power and ability of a human in the realm of mother nature is as a shadow in a dark alley. How we actually survived coming out of the trees I'll never know. Nonetheless, there is Hope. I use it all the time. It, combined with just plain old good luck, is the only reason I'm here today.

[IndigoMoon]

How Long Do We Have? Open Discussion Thread http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic42566-180.html]link

Heineken:
One thing's for sure: by 2012 there will be less oil. Less NG. Less coal. Less topsoil, less potable water, less glacial ice, less forested land, less fish and wildlife, less . . . anything useful. MORE population pressures. MORE heat, drought, flood, and other disaster.

LESS good stuff, MORE bad stuff.

Nothing can stop these trends, apparently. I am still waiting for ANY significant positive developments that are more than hype, propaganda, marketing ploys, or window dressing.

[eastbay]

From Plantagenet:
From this thread,

... and this quote:

Sorry, but you'll never drive a Hummer again. We've hit the peak in oil production, and any additional oil from the OCS or ANWR etc. can, at best, reduce the rate of oil production decline. I suggest you park that Hummer in your backyard and let your kids use it as a playhouse.

Sweet and smooth. Just the way we like them!

[Iaato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hey did not see or understand the implications of the coming end of the fossil fuel age. They are now buried in misallocated and worthless investments. The multi-generational dynasties of Rockefellers, Warburgs and Rothchilds are crumbling as the energy that built them bleeds its last meager quantities from the ground, and their fiat currencies that provided the chains to humanity break into pieces.

Like cornered animals, once they realize that their plight is dire, they will fight. They will fight the buzzing little pests that spin around them, never realizing its futility; unaware in their hubris, that their true enemy is now the Laws of Nature.

[HKFarmboy]

smallpoxgirl's quote about additions to the SPR doesn't make a lot of sense.

at less than 70,000 barrels a day, out of 20 million per day in the US and 89 million per day globally, additions to the SPR simply do not have an impact on the price of oil.

can't remember now, did congress vote to suspend or not suspend additions to the SPR.....?