[ALBY]

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/vindicatio ... -cover-up/

Good News !

Despite the military's best efforts to throw these poor bastards to the wolves, they are ALL going to be vindicated.

[Jack]

Yes, I'm glad they were acquitted.

[3aidlillahi]

Blackwater still getting hundreds of millions (billions?) every year in Iraq after their massacre. Not a single person was charged. Not a single person in the Bush administration was fired or charged after 9/11 nor the Iraq debacle. Use of chemical weapons in Iraq (a campaign supposedly against WMD's) by the US in Fallujah. It goes on and on.

Whether or not these men are guilty, I knew they wouldn't serve nearly as much as they should nor would the reasons for their acquittals ever be more than "not enough evidence" or "charges dropped". The US government and military have a history of this sort of behavior. It will not be the last.

America: Land of the Free. Indeed. Not exactly the people that should be free though.

[ALBY]

whatever your opinion of the war, sacrificing these marines to the leftist anger is unacceptable. they got IED'd and who knows after that. the fog of war and all. you can't beleive the iraqi's, they lie about everything.

guess what. war is hell. and it should be. to the extent we wage war with rules and other silliness, it makes war that much more palatable. war should always be total. the more horrible war is, the less likely we are to engage in it. *rant off*

anyway, this was a put up job, on par with the duke rape case. glad to see the prosecution can't get anywhere with it.

[ALBY]

hehehe

I think i learned this from Star Trek

season one episode 23

A taste Of Armegeddon


The U.S.S. Enterprise is ordered to pick up Ambassador Robert Fox, who is headed to planet Eminiar VII on a diplomatic mission. Upon arriving at the planet, the ship is warned away.
Beaming to the surface with a landing party, Kirk and Spock are met by a young woman, Mea 3, who tells them that Eminiar VII has been at war with its neighboring planet, Vendikar, for over 500 years. Mea 3 takes them to the council chambers where they find banks of computers. Eminiar's head council Anan 7 informs them that the two planets have learned to avoid the complete devastation of war because computers are used. When a "hit" is scored by one of the planets, the people declared "dead" willingly walk into antimatter chambers and are vaporized. Anan 7 further tells Kirk that his ship and all the crew aboard her have been declared casualties and will be executed. When Kirk flatly refuses, the landing party members are taken prisoner.

The council members are unable to convince Scotty, in charge of the U.S.S. Enterprise, to lower shields without a direct order from Captain Kirk. Meanwhile, Ambassador Fox has beamed to Eminiar and is also taken prisoner, marked for death. Kirk and Spock escape and gain the council chambers where they destroy the computers. Kirk tells the council members that they have made this war too easy for themselves and that they will truly experience the horrors of war if they do not learn to make peace first. Ambassador Fox volunteers to stay behind and negotiate a peace between the neighboring planets.

[3aidlillahi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')acrificing these marines to the leftist anger is unacceptable.

[ALBY]

for some reason, i find righteous indignation to be the funniest of all human expression.

please, carry on !

[WyoDutch]

The victors always get to decide who the "war criminals" are.




"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

[WyoDutch]

Time has a way of leveling the field.

VietNam.... 58,000 KIA and 30 years later.




"Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service."

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National city Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested."

General Smedley Butler... recipient of two Congressional Medals of Honor.

[smallpoxgirl]

Yeah. Seems pretty naive to me to train people to kill, hand them tons of devastating weapons, send them to a place where people are trying to blow them up everyday, and then get pissed when they kill the wrong person. If you want to be pissed, be pissed at the people that trained them and armed them and sent them there. Better yet, be pissed at every American that's busy putting Middle East oil in their car and is therefore willing to overlook several million dead Iraqis.

Those soldiers are in an impossible situation. They are an occupying army trying to play savior. The Iraqis are full well aware they are an occupying army. As is usually the case with occupying armies, many of the locals want them dead. There is no way, that a soldier is going to correctly assess in every instance who is trying to kill him and respond by only killing the "right" people. It's just not humanly possible. You're disoriented. People are trying to kill you. You've got a split second to make a decision and if you decide wrong, you and your whole unit may be dead. Add to that you're a very loyal, but not so bright, teenager whose been dumped into a place where you don't understand the culture and don't speak the language. Now repeat that scenario 1000 times a day. Not a big surprise that in some instances the "wrong" people are going to get shot.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]US Marine acquitted of all charges in Haditha killings

A court martial on Wednesday acquitted a US Marine for his role in the deaths of 24 civilians in Haditha in Iraq in 2005, the sixth man to be exonerated in the affair, a military official said.

Lieutenant Andrew Grayson, 27, was declared "not guilty on all charges" by a jury, said a spokesman for the Camp Pendleton military base in southern California where the hearing started on May 28.

[Jack]

Yes, I agree.