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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby kpeavey » Fri 30 May 2008, 14:40:55

North Central Florida has FPL and Clay Electric CoOp. I am subjected to FPL, same set up as Progress Energy, customer fee (about $6), use charge (about 5c/kwh), fuel charge (about 6c/kwh), total is 11-12c/kwh. Bill has increased about 2c/kwh in 4 years, all of it in the fuel charge, a 50% increase.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby emersonbiggins » Fri 30 May 2008, 14:42:16

12.1 c/kwh - 100% wind, Reliant Energy, Dallas
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby Pablo2079 » Fri 30 May 2008, 16:22:20

$60.07 divided by 664 kwh used = 0.0904668 per kwh

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby oowolf » Fri 30 May 2008, 18:59:03

$0.057/kwh. Our co-op (Northern Lights) actually owns Kootenai Falls dam, located near Troy, MT.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby Troyboy1208 » Fri 30 May 2008, 19:29:48

Do you guys predict a dramatic increase in the Kwh rate? How can the companies be surviving with all the increases in fossil fuels? Anyone know the process that a company has to go through to raise their rates? Again thanks for all the responses
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby Denny » Fri 30 May 2008, 20:15:41

I am copying this from my electric bill, from our utility, Enersource. I thought Ontario had really high electrical rates, but it seems mine are in a similar ballpark to most, at about $0.10 per kWh, all in:

YOUR ELECTRICITY CHARGES
922 kWh @ $.0500 $46.10
374 kWh @ $.0500 18.69
43 kWh @ $.0590 2.55
Delivery 55.19
Regulatory Charges 8.80
Debt Retirement Charge 9.00

Total Electricity Charges $140.33

The bill above is for two months. I use a lot more in summer.
I presume the first lines deal with the actual cost for Enersource buying power and the "delivery" is their overhead and labor for the distribution of the power.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby FreddyH » Sat 31 May 2008, 02:11:47

11.2 cents in The Yukon
5.7 in BC
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby FoolYap » Sat 31 May 2008, 08:30:44

16.45 cents a KWH here in central Massachusetts, with a small municipal power company.

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby MarkJ » Sat 31 May 2008, 13:47:16

National Grid, Upstate New York: 14.5 cents per kWh.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby FloridaGirl » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 01:16:02

Clay Electric - North Central Florida

$9/month customer charge
9.25 cents / kwh

FPL - Florida Power & Light

$5.34/month customer charge
9.36 cents / kwh - under 1000 kwh
11.39 cent / kwh - over 1000 kwh

$9.75/month Sunshine energy (optional) - Here's what FPL says about this charge:

"For every 10,000 customers who sign up for Sunshine Energy, an additional 150kw of solar will be built in Florida. New solar arrays are scheduled to be announced this year which will be among the largest solar energy producers in Florida.

In addition, for each month that you participate in the program, FPL ensures that 1,000 kWh of cleaner electricity from sources like wind, bioenergy and solar is generated and delivered to power systems serving Florida and other states nationwide."

Total bill for April (less the Sunshine Energy charge): $82.41
$82.41 / 705 kwh => 11.69 cents / kwh

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby eastbay » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 01:25:42

271 KWH for $31.84 for the month of April in this 1800 sq ft average house near Portland.


$.1175 each. Not bad. Cheap.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby bodigami » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 02:52:11

What about the total KW used by all of you, fellow posters?
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby TommyJefferson » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 10:08:27

Here's my year with TXU...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', '
Average
Date Temp KWH bill $ / kwh
May/2008 81 1494 $192.98 0.1292
Apr/2008 76 866 $107.77 0.1244
Mar/2008 71 819 $102.61 0.1253
Feb/2008 66 654 $84.47 0.1292
Jan/2008 56 941 $116.01 0.1233
Dec/2007 64 913 $112.94 0.1237
Nov/2007 71 807 $101.29 0.1255
Oct/2007 85 1252 $150.19 0.1200
Sep/2007 91 1969 $267.77 0.1360
Aug/2007 93 2270 $307.97 0.1357
Jul/2007 88 2246 $279.76 0.1246
Jun/2007 87 2155 $292.61 0.1358
May/2007 82 1409 $201.56 0.1431')
I didn't break out fees and taxes. I just divided my actual bill amount by the KiloWattHours.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby Troyboy1208 » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 11:28:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'H')ere's my year with TXU...
Average
Date Temp KWH bill $ / kwh

I like how they include the average temperature. Dividing your bill amount by kwh seems to be the easiest way of calculating that.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby eastbay » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 11:45:22

Holy cow TJ. You pay a lot! I bet we're under $400/yr!! And if not for this G5 Apple it would be maybe closer to $300.

What do you have [s]growing[/s] going out there anyhow?? 8O
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby lawnchair » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 12:09:53

I find this to be an interesting topic, because it seems no one has a really good sense of what "average" is. It's hard to find online.

Over the last year, 2-person, 1050-sq-ft, 50-year-old house. Kansas. 4928 kWh/$422.21 = 8.57c/kWh.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby IndigoMoon » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 12:40:19

This is from my April bill. 1600 sq ft house, 3 adults, built in 1942.
Our average use stays around 1000 KWH / month year round.
My electric company is Ohio Edison. The KWH charge is undefined because they have a sliding scale. The higher the usage, the higher the KWH charge.

Customer Charge 3.86
Delivery Charge 33.19
Transition Charge 8.69
Generation Related Component 66.98
Transmission Related Component 8.70
Field Collection Charge 7.00
Total Charges $ 128.42

Present KWH Reading (Actual) 71,278
Previous KWH Reading (Actual) 70,290
Kilowatt Hours Used 988
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby municipal » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 13:19:04

Ours is 0.035 in the northwest next to Grand coulee dam.
(3.5 cents)
So, why do you think MICROSTUFT and GOOGLE and YAHOO are building huge computer switching buildings 10 miles fromQuincy? They are GREEN but they like their DAMS too funny!
Ask them about saving then fish, yah shore.
Since it is 33 KWH per gallon of gasoline or diesel then electricity is cheaper than propane or ooil by about four times.
We expect to do fine after the oil crash, the community has first dibs on the power before they can sell it off to others. We pay what it costs to produce it and transmit it, the rest they can sell for profit.
anyone burning coal or oil or propane around here is loony.

Er, we WOULD do fine unless they nook the dam.
10 years ago the rate was 1.7 or about 2 cents per KW
Oh, and the green people were picketing the dam last month to remove the grand coulee dam so fish can run up where they havent run in 40 years.
Guess we could go to burning coal then.
Downstream the air temp is cool, like an airconditioner. The Dam contributes to global cooling, maybe that is why all around the world we are having ice storms in may.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby TheDude » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 02:50:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '2')71 KWH for $31.84 for the month of April in this 1800 sq ft average house near Portland.
$.1175 each. Not bad. Cheap.

You with PGE, eBay? I'm getting 13.6 c/Kwh, plus funky charges for things like the Biglow Canyon 1 wind farm and "Regulatory Adjustments."
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his adjustment accounts for nonrecurring regulatory changes, such as sales of PGE property. Currently, this is a credit.

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Postby FoolYap » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 08:21:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'W')hat about the total KW used by all of you, fellow posters?

Our use for the past year. We cook with electricity, dry clothes with electricity when we don't line-dry, and have a well pump.
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Date KWH Bill
May 2007 608 $97.22
Jun 2007 581 $96.26
Jul 2007 551 $88.45
Aug 2007 956 $158.35
Sep 2007 675 $114.44
Oct 2007 707 $119.43
Nov 2007 744 $125.22
Dec 2007 762 $128.03
Jan 2008 436 $77.08
Feb 2008 727 $122.56
Mar 2008 687 $116.31
Apr 2008 551 $95.06
May 2008 593 $101.62')
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