[Munqi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'A')re there any estimates on how long will it take before pumping the oil takes as much energy as the produced amount?

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'A')re there any estimates on how long will it take before pumping the oil takes as much energy as the produced amount?

[Munqi]

Well actually the word EROEI was completely new to me, so googling it would have been a challenge.



But thanks for the links.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'W')ell actually the word EROEI was completely new to me, so googling it would have been a challenge.

But thanks for the links.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hagakure_Leofman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'I') still dont quite get my head around this...

[Hagakure_Leofman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hagakure_Leofman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'I') still dont quite get my head around this...

[kellan1776]

Hello all fellow interested parties out there in peak oil land.

Introducing myself: My name is Kellan and I live in Michigan. I have been fascinated with this subject for over 3 years now and read about it all the time. Many of my friends are sick of me talking about it. My wife is tired of hearing about it. My children hear about it from the dinner table and their eyes glaze over. I talk to my students at work and my colleagues and they have no idea what I am talking about.

I guess I am not a denier but a semi agnostic. I sincerely hope the peak oil scenario is all wrong. But at times I get depressed thinking about it and studying it since it makes sense and is not adequately refuted in my readings.

So I spend my time reading and gathering information and preparing. We have a small amount of land and may have to grow more and more of our own food. We grow some now and try to buy local. We sell fresh eggs to other local foodies. Our house is large but plans are on the table for solar conversion and wind power. I have a good income which allows somewhat of a buffer, but I realize the trouble we all will be in if this comes to pass. I just hope that my planning and preaching will able us to live somewhat of a self sufficient life without hunger or too much hardship if the doomsday scenario comes true.

I tell my wife that I have always been fascinated with colonial history, and perhaps I will actually be able to live it someday!

Regards

K

[Pops]

Hi K, welcome.

You are in a perfect situation it sounds like. Use what you read to make plans and do projects that will benefit you come good or bad - dual use = no regrets.

A nicely stocked pantry saves money when you buy in bulk, saves on trips to the market, makes meals more varied, and can keep you alive if there is an infrastructure disruption.

Same with a garden if you like playing in the dirt: a tool shed or shop; woodstove, rainwater collection and the list goes on.

A plan for the worse can also be a plan for the best, you just gotta plan right.

[Munqi]

Someone here said that oil production has been the same for 3 years now. Can anyone confirm this?


And if its true then how long do you think that this will last before it starts going down?

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'A')nd if its true then how long do you think that this will last before it starts going down?

[Munqi]

Got a couple of more questions that i cant seem to find an answer to.

Solar power - How long does it take before a solar power generator creates more energy than it took to make it? Are there any other major problems with it that i should be aware of?

Wind power - Same as above.

Coal - If all of our oil needs would be replaced with coal then how long would it last before peaking?

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'G')ot a couple of more questions that i cant seem to find an answer to.

Solar power - How long does it take before a solar power generator creates more energy than it took to make it? Are there any other major problems with it that i should be aware of?

[Munqi]

Why cant solar/wind ever be more than 10-20%?

And isnt there some of way storing the energy when theres too much wind?


(Just so that people wont forget: still looking for an answer to this question: " How long does it take before a solar power generator creates more energy than it took to make it?")

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'A')nd if its true then how long do you think that this will last before it starts going down?

[BigTex]

New folks may want to browse this thread. It is one of many here covering the basics, but it may be useful to you.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'C')an't put solar power in the gas tank of a car.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'C')an't put solar power in the gas tank of a car.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'I')ve always thought that things would eventually go wrong (water depletion, population growth etc) but never realised that we were so close.
I dont really know what to believe right now... The first time i heard the words peak oil was 5 days ago and now im already planning what kind of a gun im going to buy o.O This is crazy...

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '(')...)
Here are a few topics to read up on:
EROEI
overshoot and die-off
cargo cults
Jevon's Paradox
cornucopians
zombies

[Munqi]

Does anyone know a site where i could find a list of all energy sources and how much it costs to produce energy with them?