[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hat gets me is, these ppl tend to think they are good Christians.

[Bman4k1]

wow this took a really crazy turn after the 3rd page. I am not even close to rich. If I was I would use the money to prepare for peal oil like he rest of you are doing. Would I help other people? Ya I would. Would I give all my money away? Of course not.

I have no problem with people being rich. I do have a problem with people buying 5 homes and 20 cars and having 200 dollar meals and throwing it out. Like this lust and greed of money is the problem, not the money itself. If you want to wipe your butt with your money go ahead, but when money is your onlygoal in life you have a problem.

[kellan1776]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', ' ')Money is the root of all evil.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bman4k1', 'I') do have a problem with people buying 5 homes and 20 cars and having 200 dollar meals and throwing it out.

[Revi]

I had to endure a bunch of religious talk from my very rich aunt and uncle. We are not related to them by blood, so we aren't in on the riches. They are all sanctimonious about the whole Jesus thing, but they forget the passage in the Bible where it says that it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of the needle than to enter the kingdom of heaven. It refers to the gate into Jerusalem called the eye of the needle. A camel had to unload, and crawl through. They did this to keep loads of things from going in to the city after hours.

I think it is going to be a really interesting time in America. Those of us clinging to middle class status used to feel like we had more in common with the rich. We don't feel like that any more. They are so far above us that we are beginning to feel like the underclass. We are beginning to realize that we're never going to get up there with the richie-riches. We may not even be able to retire.

We have to have faith that things will work out. The rich don't need faith. They have money. When we are going bankrupt from the cost of oil and gas they are profiting from their oil investments.

We can only live one day at a time. Leave the rich in their gilded cages. We may have to pander to whatever whim they have, and do whatever strikes their fancy, but in the end they are the ones that have no understanding of anything. The rich are different.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') think it is going to be a really interesting time in America. Those of us clinging to middle class status used to feel like we had more in common with the rich. We don't feel like that any more. They are so far above us that we are beginning to feel like the underclass. We are beginning to realize that we're never going to get up there with the richie-riches. We may not even be able to retire.

[Bman4k1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bman4k1', 'I') do have a problem with people buying 5 homes and 20 cars and having 200 dollar meals and throwing it out.

[Prince]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') think it is going to be a really interesting time in America. Those of us clinging to middle class status used to feel like we had more in common with the rich. We don't feel like that any more. They are so far above us that we are beginning to feel like the underclass. We are beginning to realize that we're never going to get up there with the richie-riches. We may not even be able to retire.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kakkerlak', '(')...)
Question; why is the "i" when referring to ourself always written using a capital "I"? Do we deserve a capital "I"?
(...)

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kellan1776', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', ' ')Money is the root of all evil.

[Denny]

Regarding the old biblical injuciton, that the love of money is the root of all evil.

Lets look at three forms, all of which I think I may be at least a little bit guilty of too. But, do these consisttute "like" or "love" of money?

1 - If I collect and cherish special coins, for among other reasons their value, is that "love"? If so, I guess heaven won't have coin collectors in it.

2 - If I follow the stock market and invest and feel good when its up and bad when its down, is that a sign that I "love" money? If so, then most anybody owning stock or mutual funds will face a barrier at heaven' gate. I can't believe anybody who owns shares in teh market or funds is not delighted when they go up and feeling sorry when they go down.

3 - Wht about all those who buy lottery tickets? For sure isn't that expressing a love of money? If so, even the many poor people who waste part of their pay check or welfare check on lotteries are doomed to perdition.

How many are not guilty of love of money?

Or is love of money defined only by the extreme of Ebeneezer Scrooge who spent most of his spare hours counting his coins?

[DomusAlbion]

Who are these wealthy people to whom you are referring?

What is their accumulated wealth? What is their income?

I want to know if I'm wealthy (according to you) before exploring this any further.

Actually, I'll say something.

The percentage of wealthy in the world is rather low. The real destroyers of the environment and greatest consumers of our limited natural resources are the overwhelming majority of poor.

[joeltrout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '
')
What is their accumulated wealth?

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kellan1776', '(')...)
The vitriol displayed in this post and many other posts in these forums is beyond belief. There is a palpable glee in many of these responses on this thread and others that wishes for others to fail, suffer and even die. Many here are absolutely wishing for the worst doomsday scenarios to befall their neighbors.

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kellan1776', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', ' ')Money is the root of all evil.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '(')...)
1) You give it away that easy simply because you did not earn that money in the first place. Plus, the ultimate purpose of any state is to protect the rich from the poor, thus its your responsebilty to fund it anyway.
(...)

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '
')
What is their accumulated wealth?

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', 'I')f I was God, I'd be causing so many disasters on this planet it wouldn't even be funny, as the human race just doesn't have it figured out. We're an evolutionary dead end...it's time for all of us to wake up to this fact and deal with it.

[Bman4k1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '
')
Oh, please, don't give me that claptrap.

You have no idea of what it's like to be poor, as you've never lived like they do. You've never experienced the agonizing worry of bills, bills, bills, and not enough paycheck to cover them all. You've never experienced what it's like to have a sudden illness strike your family and having no money to pay for it. You have no idea of what it's like to lose your job due to no fault of your own and to lose EVERYTHING you've worked for just because you can't find another job. This has happened to MILLIONS of people in the USA, and Peak Oil will make this a hundred times worse.

I don't wanna hear about how "generous" rich people are, or how much taxes they pay, or how they are able to keep so many people employed...it is still UNFAIR and yes, I have the right to hate and wish for the worst for them and all of that good stuff...if the other folks on here can be totally without a conscience to the point of wiping their ass with $50 bills, then I have the right to wish the worst upon them.

If I was God, I'd be causing so many disasters on this planet it wouldn't even be funny, as the human race just doesn't have it figured out. We're an evolutionary dead end...it's time for all of us to wake up to this fact and deal with it.

And by the time Peak Oil and the wrath of Gaia gets done with us, there isn't going to be much of anything left at all...and you know what, I couldn't be more happy about that.