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Re: new girl

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 27 May 2008, 18:58:12

Welcome.

Although polar bears obviously are not our number 1 concern here, you will find that they are discussed sometimes in the Environmental Forum, usually in Global Warming News links thread.

Since it already appears you recognize the links between nature and man, you'll find a lot to learn here.

There have been so many subjects discussed relating to fossil fuel use, you'll probably find an existing thread - using the searches features - that may give you some answers.

If you don't find the answer to your more specific concerns, start another thread in the appropiate area.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby Cashmere » Tue 27 May 2008, 19:00:53

Polar Bears will be extinct before 2200 - stop worrying about them and let them go with some dignity.

You live in Florida? Not the best place to be post PO.

If I were you, I'd stop worrying about species that have no shot of making it and I'd start worrying about yourself.

Harsh, I know, but worrying about spotted owls and ring tailed lemurs and polar bears is only for those with lots of cheap energy and lots of free time.

Soon, you will have neither.

Good luck.
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A new guy

Unread postby Itsallcomindown » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:03:08

I just found out about this site and am glad to learn that there is a forum for this kind of discussion. Most people I try to talk to about this think i'm crazy or they don't want to hear it. I'm from Little Rock, AR. and for the last few years we have had the problem in Pulaski County of not having enough bed space to house prisoners and criminals. The police usually end up releasing non- violent offenders and burglary has tripled in the last couple of years. As oil prices contiue to rise I can see more and more of the police department budget going to gas as well as a decrease in patrols, which has already started to happen. This is not to mention the illegal immigration problem that's going on here. For example, about a month or 2 ago, police busted up a cartel of about 50 people running meth and ice from Mexico and about 30 of them were illegal. I was wondering what kind of situations some other metropolitan areas were facing and most of all, when does it become time to take matters into one's own hands?
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Re: new girl

Unread postby Pops » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:03:19

Welcome Jenny, take a while and read through some threads.

No Overnight Armageddon more than you have experienced so far but some think a wake up call.

Not sure what your concern for Polar Bears down in Florida has to do with peak oil but as you cited an article about human food be assured it does have something to do with oil.
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Re: A new guy

Unread postby Pops » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:12:36

All of us have our futures and those of our offspring in our hands.

As such, we all abide by the laws of the land or work the system to make the laws change.

At PO.com, fomenting illegal acts is against the rules so perhaps rephrasing your question is in order.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby jedinvest » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:17:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'I')f I were you, I'd stop worrying about species that have no shot of making it and I'd start worrying about yourself.


Hi Jenny, That is quite a selfish perspective. I would say keep worrying about the polar bears AND the migrating bird populations AND the ocean fish stocks AND etc, etc.

First, it is good to not be so self-centered, for if we are to be dispatched, it is best to go with dignity -- for ourselves and the polar bears.

Someone has to be worrying about these creatures because our fate will also be tied to their fate as ALL creatures rely upon the environment in many ways.

The most disturbing thing about this board is the urgency attached to watching out for oneself because many of us don't see it coming -- at least, not right away. If it does come to that, I hope some of us still have the energy to watch out for the other species on this planet and our collective environment.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:22:26

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The most disturbing thing about this board is the urgency attached to watching out for oneself because many of us don't see it coming -- at least, not right away. If it does come to that, I hope some of us still have the energy to watch out for the other species on this planet and our collective environment.


If you can't help yourself then you can't expect to help anyone/anything else.

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Re: new girl

Unread postby dinopello » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:26:49

If there are polar bears down in Florida, they probably are very uncomfortable.

I have good friends in Boca and Melbourne so I try to keep up with issues down there. Hope you post up!
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Re: new girl

Unread postby Polemic » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:41:29

OMG! I love polar bears too -- they're so cute!!!111

Wanna bang?... I give the best doomer pillow talk.
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hello

Unread postby portuga » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:48:42

hello´i´m pedro from portugal, i´ve become peak oil aware 3 years ago... i´m very worried with the situation in my country and even more with the future of my son, i´m looking forward to participate in this forum. c ya
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Newb from Los Angeles

Unread postby Sinister » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:50:41

Hello, just learned about peak oil a few weeks a go. I know I'm late to the party, but luckily I found this site. Have started working out a plan. Stuck in Los Angeles, CA. in the meantime, wish me luck.
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Re: Newb from Los Angeles

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:53:25

Don't worry. You aren't the only one from Los Angeles around here. Welcome.

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Re: new girl

Unread postby JennyLB82 » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:55:25

ok people, just because i live in florida doesn't mean i can't have a vested interest in the polar bears. too many people out there don't so someone needs to.

i have only been browsing these message board for a couple of days and i have never felt more hopeless in my life. i approached this site with excitement about the forum to discuss these issues with people that actually care about them, and i gotta tell you guys, i have a headache and feel like no matter what i do and no matter how many people i tell it is pointless.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 27 May 2008, 20:59:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JennyLB82', 'o')k people, just because i live in florida doesn't mean i can't have a vested interest in the polar bears. too many people out there don't so someone needs to.

i have only been browsing these message board for a couple of days and i have never felt more hopeless in my life. i approached this site with excitement about the forum to discuss these issues with people that actually care about them, and i gotta tell you guys, i have a headache and feel like no matter what i do and no matter how many people i tell it is pointless.


Not to be mean but try an environmental forum. We are discussing peak oil and issues relevant to it. Not saving animals unless we can use them for food, clothing, etc...

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Re: new girl

Unread postby Pops » Tue 27 May 2008, 21:00:53

There is a tell others contingent and a a save your own contingent and another who thinks about polar bears/whales/snails and such.

You can't save the world until you save yourself.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby Revi » Tue 27 May 2008, 21:01:15

It is huge, but there are things you can do about peak oil. We did a bunch of things so that we are now using half of the fossil fuels we did 5 years ago. It saves lots of money and makes it possible to live into the expensive energy years. It also helps with global warming, which helps out those polar bears. Here's a webalbum of what we did:

http://www.msad54.org/sahs/appliedarts/ ... /index.htm

Click on the pics for an explanation.

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Re: new girl

Unread postby Twilight » Tue 27 May 2008, 21:03:19

Lecturing people about peak oil can be pointless. Reducing your energy use is not. If nothing else, it is going to save you a lot of money these days. Maybe you could use that as a starting point.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby JennyLB82 » Tue 27 May 2008, 21:09:27

thank you, twilight! i couldn't agree more. when i mention peak oil to people, they have no idea what i am talking about. i have a general understanding, i think, to what it is. it is a very overwhelming thing to think about. however, convincing people that they need to conserve energy and find oil alternatives is much easier to express.

joeltrout, i think you are a little harsh. this is a new members welcome forum. don't bite people's head off on the first day. i would think you would want to make people hopeful about a not-so-hopeful situation. i have made a total of 3 posts, i am new. that's why i am in the welcome forum.

maybe you should go to another forum where the peak oil experts reside.
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Re: hello

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 27 May 2008, 21:14:27

Welcome.

While po.com is visited by interested persons around the world, in general, we in the US don't know much about the energy situation in Portugal because it doesn't appear in our usual media sources.

However if you post some facts about your situation in Portugal, that you want someone to comment about, you'll probably get some response at po.com.
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Re: new girl

Unread postby Pops » Tue 27 May 2008, 21:15:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JennyLB82', 't')joeltrout, i think you are a little harsh. this is a new members welcome forum. don't bite people's head off on the first day. i would think you would want to make people hopeful about a not-so-hopeful situation. i have made a total of 3 posts, i am new. that's why i am in the welcome forum.

maybe you should go to another forum where the peak oil experts reside.

Yea, Joel fancies himself an old hand but he's only been here a short while himself.

You'll do alright, take the advice that works and let the other stuff roll.

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