[allenwrench]

Which industries will follow the demise of the airlines?

I think RV companies and boat manufactures are right behind the airlines.

Maybe the lodging biz? The multitude of motels along the trekking route to Fla may suffer. Or will the seniors keep on migrating no matter how high gas gets?

I've cut out my driving trips to Fla. to go to Ginnie Springs for diving. Too expensive hauling my trailer for what I get out of it. Also Ginnie raised their rates as did many of the Fla springs. So I just say NO to all these price raises as my budget does not keep up with it all.

Maybe the Harley Davidson crowd is in for a hit? They get 35 mpg on average, but cost more than many cars do.

What other industries / sectors are headed for the scrap heap?

[joeltrout]

Obviously any industry that fuel is a large part of their cost.

Also, I think any businesses that depend on "just-in-time shipping". Many businesses do not have large storage areas and cannot hold a lot of inventory therefore they rely on nightly shipments of goods.

That is not a problem when you can arrange a truck shipment of supplies any time you want. But as truckers start dropping off the map then some businesses will have a lot of empty shelves because they are not getting daily shipments of goods.

joeltrout

[Dreamtwister]

The trucking industry is screwed. They are protesting in the UK again, and it's only going to get worse.

I think the boating industry will be able to last a little longer, but they will have to transition from bloated yachts to very, very fast speedboats. Yes, there will definitely be a market for small boats that can do 80 knots...yo ho ho!

[Gerben]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'T')he trucking industry is screwed. They are protesting in the UK again, and it's only going to get worse.
I think the boating industry will be able to last a little longer, but they will have to transition from bloated yachts to very, very fast speedboats. Yes, there will definitely be a market for small boats that can do 80 knots...yo ho ho!

[smallpoxgirl]

I think it's a mistake to think that the airline industry is going to demise. It's going to undergo upheaval, contraction, and consolidation and people are going to have to rethink their business model, but the airlines aren't going away. Not any time soon.

Ditto shipping. The problem with both shipping and airlines is that they are super-competitive AND they're heavily dependent on fossil fuel use. It sets up these huge games of chicken where the first one to blink and raise prices goes out of bankrupt. Ultimately the survivors will soldier on.

Certain businesses within different sectors are very likely to go belly up from failure to plan for high fuel costs- e.g Ford, GM, and American Airlines. Others, for example Toyota and Southwest Airline, will reap the profit.

[misterno]

How can the airlines survive with $200 oil? How can an airline sell cheapest NY-LA tickets for $1000 and still survive?

It does not make sense. Bus companies like Greyhound will thrive.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') think it's a mistake to think that the airline industry is going to demise. It's going to undergo upheaval, contraction, and consolidation and people are going to have to rethink their business model, but the airlines aren't going away. Not any time soon. ... Others, for example Toyota and Southwest Airline, will reap the profit.

[NeoPeasant]

Pretty much any industry devoted to providing a good or service that is not necessary for subsistence living is at risk. Unfortunately this describes nearly all of the U.S. economy.

Many will suffer terribly from unemployment. Some of us are preparing to enjoy it.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'I')f the airline industry contracts by my WAG, say 50%, and the average ticket prices double or triple (well on their way now), how can that be seen as anything but a demise?

[Twilight]

I often read economy class is loss-making and is subsidised by business class which more than pays its way. When push comes to shove, economy class will be ditched and airlines will return to something resembling the more exclusive business model of 50s and 60s. The brutal contraction this would entail could be called "demise", but airlines will stubbornly remain for a long time to come.

[Windmills]

I think a great many delivery services will be curtailed.
Pizza delivery
Flower delivery
FedEx, UPS, DHL. I think postal services will largely revert back to being more a part of the government again. I believe that's provided for in the Constitution.
Expensive delivery services could contract or destroy a number of internet based services, such as Amazon and Ebay, and a host of other mail-order shops. Shipping costs are already destroying whatever competitive edge internet shops had.
Shuttle services.
Construction could take another hit as municipalities cut back on road construction and reserve their budgets for maintenance.
A number of restaurants will fold as people continue to cut back on discretionary spending.
Tourism will certainly take a hit.
Anything else that you can think of that can't adapt to the demise of the ICE automobile and expensive oil and oil products.
Many types of businesses may not disappear completely, but rather contract and become expensive, once again reserving a number of domains for the rich.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', 'I') often read economy class is loss-making and is subsidised by business class which more than pays its way. When push comes to shove, economy class will be ditched and airlines will return to something resembling the more exclusive business model of 50s and 60s. The brutal contraction this would entail could be called "demise", but airlines will stubbornly remain for a long time to come.

[allenwrench]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', 'O')bviously any industry that fuel is a large part of their cost.
Also, I think any businesses that depend on "just-in-time shipping". Many businesses do not have large storage areas and cannot hold a lot of inventory therefore they rely on nightly shipments of goods.
That is not a problem when you can arrange a truck shipment of supplies any time you want. But as truckers start dropping off the map then some businesses will have a lot of empty shelves because they are not getting daily shipments of goods.
joeltrout

[joeltrout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('allenwrench', 'M')ail order buyers may feel it if UPS gets too high?

[allenwrench]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'T')he trucking industry is screwed. They are protesting in the UK again, and it's only going to get worse.
I think the boating industry will be able to last a little longer, but they will have to transition from bloated yachts to very, very fast speedboats. Yes, there will definitely be a market for small boats that can do 80 knots...yo ho ho!

[allenwrench]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerben', 'T')he energy used by a boat is increases with the square of the speed. .

[allenwrench]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') think it's a mistake to think that the airline industry is going to demise. It's going to undergo upheaval, contraction, and consolidation and people are going to have to rethink their business model, but the airlines aren't going away. Not any time soon.
Ditto shipping. The problem with both shipping and airlines is that they are super-competitive AND they're heavily dependent on fossil fuel use. It sets up these huge games of chicken where the first one to blink and raise prices goes out of bankrupt. Ultimately the survivors will soldier on.
Certain businesses within different sectors are very likely to go belly up from failure to plan for high fuel costs- e.g Ford, GM, and American Airlines. Others, for example Toyota and Southwest Airline, will reap the profit.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('allenwrench', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerben', 'T')he energy used by a boat is increases with the square of the speed. .

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerben', 'T')here will be a big market for slower boats with sails, solar powerd electric engines and/or drawn through a canal by horses/people.

[joeltrout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerben', 'T')here will be a big market for slower boats with sails, solar powerd electric engines and/or drawn through a canal by horses/people.