[allenwrench]

I caught a long pres interview on TV. One reporter spelled It all out as much as could be said only lacking the words Hubbert and Peak. The pres blew it off. Put the problem all on the refusal to drill in Alaska. He hopes he will never have to use the words PO until after leaving office. The gov does not like to admit such things. It would raise hell with our retirement funds and the Dow.

I feel sorry for Obama or who ever gets in. And if the roof doesn't fall on him or her, the next pres wills surely get hit with it.

And what do we do when things go bad? They blame it all on the pres. Like he or she can pull crude and NG out their ass?

Maybe I should not feel bad for politicians. After all they are ego based power hungry individuals. I imagine they all know about peak oil. They probably view it as a game of musical chairs. Give me power for a day and I only hope the roof falls in on the next guy and the music wont stop on my presidency.

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ZombieMalthus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '
')Not true.

Supply greater than demand is a supply/demand imbalance. Peak oil is the maximum daily flow.

Go back to wikipedia and read up on peak oil for a bit and see if you can figure out the distinction. If not, PM me and I'll walk you through it.

Baby steps, son. Baby steps.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('allenwrench', 'I') caught a long pres interview on TV. One reporter spelled It all out as much as could be said only lacking the words Hubbert and Peak. The pres blew it off. Put the problem all on the refusal to drill in Alaska. He hopes he will never have to use the words PO until after leaving office. The gov does not like to admit such things. It would raise hell with our retirement funds and the Dow.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ZombieMalthus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '
')Not true.

Supply greater than demand is a supply/demand imbalance. Peak oil is the maximum daily flow.

Go back to wikipedia and read up on peak oil for a bit and see if you can figure out the distinction. If not, PM me and I'll walk you through it.

Baby steps, son. Baby steps.

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ZombieMalthus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '
')Not true.

Supply greater than demand is a supply/demand imbalance. Peak oil is the maximum daily flow.

Go back to wikipedia and read up on peak oil for a bit and see if you can figure out the distinction. If not, PM me and I'll walk you through it.

Baby steps, son. Baby steps.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '
')
Maybe I'm just cursed with being able to read and write properly.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', 'A') growing gap between what is required and what can be provided."
Now would you like to educate us all and tell how my statement is factually incorrect.

[kokoda]

Once again I will refer to what I actually said.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')rue ... but the end result is the same. A growing gap between what is required and what can be provided.

[AgentR]

Pretty loose concept of "required", but given that description, your comment is true enough.

I was thinking more along the lines of "required" as in essential for continuation of industrial life.

[ccricers]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', 'I') will know that we are truly in the oil crisis when the president-- whomever he or she may be-- tells the public that we have to drive less, fly less, consume less and just simply do less. That notion seems to be too bitter of a pill for the public to swallow.

[SoylentGreen]

Peak Oil has happened. The re-invasion of Iraq was the beginning of the resource war. It's a slow ride at 1st, but wait it will accelerate.

[FreddyH]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SoylentGreen', 'P')eak Oil has happened. The re-invasion of Iraq was the beginning of the resource war. It's a slow ride at 1st, but wait it will accelerate.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreddyH', 'H')ow much Iraqi crude has the Coalition taken away so far? We didn't hear about this in Canada.

[Plantagenet]

Look who's in favor of the moratorium and the EIS studies:

"Alex Daue, an outreach coordinator for the Wilderness Society, an environmental conservation group, praised the government for assessing the implications of large-scale solar development."

The environmentalists don't want those nasty solar energy systems killing any deer or birds or gophers or hurting their habitats or anything of that sort. Who knows what kinds of rare and endangered species of butterflies and squirrels might be found with enough multi-year EIS studies in the proposed solar development sites, and more EIS studies of the proposed roads to the solar sites, and more EIS studies of the proposed electrical transmission routes!!!!

[f2tornado]

If an empire penquin farts in Antarctica, Bush will be blamed for it. Right snow solar power costs about three times as much as coal and twice as much as wind. If the price of coal power production quadruples then Americans will be begging for "cheap" solar power but there won't be enough to go around. A coworker originally from Colorado informed me Excel Energy has a limited clean energy program where its Colorado customers can elect to pay higher rates in order to pay for the increased price of renewable power generation. Turned out after Hurricane Katrina hit, the bills people were getting in the renewable program were lower than the conventional bills. Of course the remaining customers wanted in on this action but were shut out because there was a limit to the amount of renewable energy Excel was producing.

[MyOldTDiIsStillGoing]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'L')ook who's in favor of the moratorium and the EIS studies:

"Alex Daue, an outreach coordinator for the Wilderness Society, an environmental conservation group, praised the government for assessing the implications of large-scale solar development."

The environmentalists don't want those nasty solar energy systems killing any deer or birds or gophers or hurting their habitats or anything of that sort. Who knows what kinds of rare and endangered species of butterflies and squirrels might be found with enough multi-year EIS studies in the proposed solar development sites, and more EIS studies of the proposed roads to the solar sites, and more EIS studies of the proposed electrical transmission routes!!!!

[TWilliam]

You know, I'm not especially fond of the enviro-nazis myself, but at least they have the sense to know that it's NOT ok to pave and panel and drill and 'develop' the whole goddamned planet just because selfish @ssholes want the 'convenience' of their wireless, push-button, remote-controlled drive-in 'utopia'...

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MyOldTDiIsStillGoing', 'h')ow are the caribou enjoying the pipeline up there? Yes, the pipeline destroyed their population.

[SILENTTODD]

What would you expect from the worst administration in U.S. history? I mean even the only other contender, Warren Harding, pardoned Eugene Debs and kept us us out of war. "He was a good guy"(Harding)-Howard Zinn

[abelardlindsay]

Remember the whole wind turbines kill birds scare? That was a complete manufactured farce. The amount of birds wind turbines kill turned out to be totally negligible compared to the amount that cars or high rise buildings killed yet it stalled wind power development for years.