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Re: hey im a newbie

Unread postby Cashmere » Sun 25 May 2008, 12:50:59

I don't know about the convention center analogy.

It's more like being in DC on a 3 day weekend and having several kazillion tourists wearing "FBI" hats and 100 extra pounds clog up the Metro and the streets.
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Attention NEWBS

Unread postby Cashmere » Sun 25 May 2008, 13:19:53

If you are a Peak Oil newb, then please heed the following . . .


Please DO NOT make your first post a "there is no problem, we have plenty of oil, alternatives are available, there's a big oil conspiracy, some guy heard 30 years ago that there's more oil in Alaska than there are moon rocks on the moon, oil is made at the core of the earth so there's a limitless supply, it's speculation that's driving up the price, we just need to drill more, and so on and on and on."

EVERY ONE of those incorrect assertions has been debated extensively on this site.

If you believe that any of the above listed items are true, then spend a few hours searching this site and reviewing the posts that have already been made on this issue.

If you make the choice to make your first post read . . .

"Peak Oil is not true because . . ."

you will out yourself as a know-nothing newb and you will be soundly, intellectually, beaten down.

You've been warned.
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Sun 25 May 2008, 13:32:05

Also I recomend readingThe Hirsch Report to the Department of Energy
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Newbie in Wisconsin... for now...

Unread postby socalspeck » Sun 25 May 2008, 14:30:07

Hello All! I am very pleased to find this site, obviously because I am here! I am originally from lovely (ugh!) Southern California. My husband grew up in Northern Idaho...hmmm, strange combination, but we seem to make it work. We have been working on our survival plans for years now and, frankly, I thought we were weird, but that didn't stop us. We are currently living in Wisconsin, don't ask me why, and are looking to move back West. Not sure where, but preferably somewhere rural, with trees and hills, well some kind of terrain. We are interested in finding a location near other "like minded" individuals. Any ideas, suggestions? We are also interested in finding out more about solar/ wind power generation, especially about how we would go about converting a grid powered property to an off the grid property. So, any suggestions in that realm would also be much appreciated. I look forward to learning from all of you and hopefully, adding something to the group as well! Thanks for being here, Socalspeck
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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby Cashmere » Sun 25 May 2008, 14:35:50

I didn't mean "newb" in a bad way.

If you're new to something, you're a newb, simple as that.

And if you're 100 pounds overweight, you are fat, simple as that.

Both conditions can be remedied with time and effort.
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby Cashmere » Sun 25 May 2008, 15:05:44

It's too late Drifter.

I've already responded to 4 or 5 posts from 1st time posters who come in with various reasons why we're all missing it.

Number 1 reason so far . . .

"Big Oil".

Jeez.

This is going to be an ugly 10 years, as fat and stupid J6P fights to the death for the belief that, in fact, we don't have to change.
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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Sun 25 May 2008, 15:10:18

Newb = Someone who is new. Abbreviation of newbie.
N00b/noob = Someone who is needlessly stupid.

You can use the term "newb" without negative connotation, though depending on context, negative connotation can be conveyed.

The second, however, is an exclusively derogatory term.

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The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby Jack » Sun 25 May 2008, 15:12:58

Darn it, Cashmere, how are we going to get someone to top the fool who advocated sending tanker ships to Jupiter to harvest methane with you chasing them off?

And to advocate someone do a little reading and educate themselves a bit before trumpeting forth with some purported solution? Why, that's so incredibly over-the-top I hardly know what to say.

(Sigh)

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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 25 May 2008, 15:31:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'I')t's too late Drifter.

I've already responded to 4 or 5 posts from 1st time posters who come in with various reasons why we're all missing it.

Number 1 reason so far . . .

"Big Oil".

Jeez.

This is going to be an ugly 10 years, as fat and stupid J6P fights to the death for the belief that, in fact, we don't have to change.


I have a feeling that the moderators are not going to look the other way as they did before regarding trolls posting on this forum. It's getting too crowded to ignore them.


Around 2003 there was this really cool sport-touring website (motorcycles). We had a nice small group and had a lot of fun. I even went to the 1st ever National in the Black Hills. Within a couple of years the site had grown to the point where it started to suck and became unmanageable. Will the same thing happen here?
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New member from LA

Unread postby Blue_Sky » Sun 25 May 2008, 15:51:19

Lower Alabama that is. I believe that more people will wake up and realise that our society can not keep going like it has, and changes in life style will have to be dramatic. I have changed my life but I am not ready to totally give up the tv, internet, etc. I do not know how we are going to cope with no or little oil, but I do believe that is the position that we will be in just a few years - if that long.
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Re: New member from LA

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:00:22

Welcome to the site.

Lots to learn here.

Enjoy.
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Re: New member from LA

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:02:26

Nice to have you on board. you are one of many new visitors and we welcome you. Enjoy the site and read up on the tons of info here. Lots of good people with diverse opinions. How did you find out about PO.com?
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Re: Newbie in Wisconsin... for now...

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:13:06

Welcome.

There is a lot to learn and discuss here.

Enjoy.
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Re: Newbie in Wisconsin... for now...

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:22:43

I need a standard greeting for all the newbies :) Man this day is one for the record I am sure. Aaron must be working up a sweat keeping the site going!! CAn't wait for some numbers over the last day or so!

Oh and welcome to the site. Now you must take the time to digest everything and go through all the stages that every member here has had to deal with. Welcome aboard
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Hello!

Unread postby johhnytrash » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:31:36

I'm stuck. I'm aware about Peak Oil. I believe that Peak Oil will happen, but I'm borderline lower-middle class in Chicago. I make just enough to float by and slowly whittle down my credit card debt and struggle with my 40 mile commute. I want to get ready, but I find that I'm unable to afford anything other then to educate myself. When the infrastructure breaks, I'll know why and how, but I'll be right there with the teeming masses of the unprepared. I'm gardening, I know how to sew and beat people off of me with a stick, but I don't have land, nor know anyone that owns land. So basically, I have nowhere to run to and I'm in a huge city where there's even competition for the garbage. I have my job and wife and pets tying me to the city and I'm kinda unable to uproot and get away. Is there any advice out there?
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Re: Attention NEWBS

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:31:57

Welcome to anyone who is new to the site.

Please use the same good manners you would use when visiting anywhere for the first time.

You may want to spend some time reading old posts and many of the excellent links that are constantly being provided to peak oil-related material.

This topic has a lot more moving parts than most people initially imagine.
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Newbie from south central Florida

Unread postby hawkeye » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:34:12

Hello Everyone,
I just finished reading an associated press article on global energy concerns and found a reference to this site. After a quick perusal I immediately felt compelled to join. I reside in the center of the Kissimmee, Lake Okeechobee, Everglades ecosystem and look forward to participating on the boards. I'm certainly glad I found this site!
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Re: Hello!

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:34:28

Spend a few days reading the archives here and at other places on the web.

Give yourself some time to digest the new information.

Don't assume you have to spend a lot of money to get "prepared."

A lot of preparation is educating yourself and developing a new perspective on the future.
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Re: Hello!

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:39:54

Welcome, Johnnytrash.
The Planning for the Future forum is full of ideas. There are many variables regarding how the future is going to turn out--one of them being you may be better off being quite mobile.
The knowledge of what is happening and what will probably happen soon (within the next couple of years) will put you wwaayy out in front of the rest of the public.
Don't give up-an answer will, most likely, present itself to you as you learn more. :)
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Re: Hello!

Unread postby jlw61 » Sun 25 May 2008, 16:39:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'S')pend a few days reading the archives here and at other places on the web.
Give yourself some time to digest the new information.
Don't assume you have to spend a lot of money to get "prepared."
A lot of preparation is educating yourself and developing a new perspective on the future.

More importantly, listen to what people like BigTex, Pops, Pup55 and a few others have to say. Peak oil is going to happen, but The End Of The World As We Know It (EOTWAWKI) is not happening tomorrow.
When somebody makes a statement you don't understand, don't tell him he's crazy. Ask him what he means. -- Otto Harkaman, Space Viking
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