[Ferretlover]

HHHmmm... Buy shares in an oar company?

[idiom]

If you own a larger launch or yacht, (50' +) you can got through Thousands of liters of fuel. Even when its just sitting there you need generators running, let alone getting these monstrosities up on a plane.

[frankthetank]

I've actually done a test to figure out my gas mileage. I have a 16ft Jon boat with a 25hp 4 stroke (most newer boats are four stroke, while older ones have the blue smoke belching 2 strokes..horribly inefficient when idling...most of the gas goes right into the water). Running at an avg of 25mph (my boat tops out at 30mph) using the GPS i logged the miles I went during a boat ride. Before leaving i had weighed the gas tank, upon return i weighed it again.

My boat get 12mpg at 25mph... Not bad for a boat. I bet when idling (roughly 3 or 4mph) you could get in the 20s or 30s mpg.

I just talked to a tournament guy who said the big bass boat guys are easily burning through $200 in gas during just one day of fishing.

I should take some pictures of the boat landing tomorrow. It'll be insanely packed. You'd be surprised at how big of boats people will take out on the Mississippi up here. I was out fishing the other day and a Cigar boat flew by me at about 60mph...

[wxman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BrazilianPO', 'O')MG! That is the end of the world! No more boats for the rich! Let me shed a tear... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Buy a frigging kayak - even better for your health!! Use the spare money to help pay any debt that you might still have. If you have no debts, lucky you, use the money to prepare for when things get really ugly. My goodness, I hope there are not many of those around!!!

[Olaf]

My wife and I are not rich. She is a school teacher and I work in County government.

She inherited a boat from her parents when they both passed away. They were lifelong boaters. It is a 34 foot Silverton and is 20 years old. It has two Chevy 350 engines and gets 0.6 MPG. We have been trying to sell it for over a year. Not even a nibble.

Olaf

[frankthetank]

I should add a couple of comments about what i've noticed so far this year.

I have yet to see a Jet Ski (waverunner)!!! This is strange. I've been out about 10 times so far.

I saw a smaller boat like mine with just a trolling motor on it. I've never seen this before.

Boat traffic is way down (so are water temps!) this year by what i can tell. I think the weather hasn't helped.

I'll add one thing about jet skis. They are horribly inefficient machines that use impellers that are very small. They need a 150hp just to push 800 pounds to 58mph. I drove a turbocharged Honda Aquatraxx last summer and was not impressed. My boat with 40hp would go over 40mph... You could easily burn through hundreds of dollars on a jet ski in one day.

[MarkJ]

Boattest.com has plenty of GPH and MPG rating at various speeds for boats and personal watercraft.

Some boats and personal watercraft are actually fairly economical when running in the sweet spot. Of course if you run WOT, or you're constantly accelerating, bucking waves etc, your fuel consumption will increase substantially.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I') should add a couple of comments about what i've noticed so far this year.

I have yet to see a Jet Ski (waverunner)!!! This is strange. I've been out about 10 times so far.

I saw a smaller boat like mine with just a trolling motor on it. I've never seen this before.

[MarkJ]

Some of the local lower and lower middle income people here in lake country will quit smoking, quit drinking, quit buying lottery tickets, stop eating at restaurants, stop going to the movies and give up pizzas, digital cable, pay-per-view and high speed internet before they'll give up their hunting, fishing and boating.

The increasing efficiency of four cycle outboards, four cycle snowmobiles and abundance of reliable & relatively inexpensive used toys makes the total cost of toy ownership affordable for the masses.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', 'S')ome of the local lower and lower middle income people here in lake country will quit smoking, quit drinking, quit buying lottery tickets, stop eating at restaurants, stop going to the movies and give up pizzas, digital cable, pay-per-view and high speed internet before they'll give up their hunting, fishing and boating.

The increasing efficiency of four cycle outboards, four cycle snowmobiles and abundance of reliable & relatively inexpensive used toys makes the total cost of toy ownership affordable for the masses.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkJ', 'S')ome of the local lower and lower middle income people here in lake country will quit smoking, quit drinking, quit buying lottery tickets, stop eating at restaurants, stop going to the movies and give up pizzas, digital cable, pay-per-view and high speed internet before they'll give up their hunting, fishing and boating.

The increasing efficiency of four cycle outboards, four cycle snowmobiles and abundance of reliable & relatively inexpensive used toys makes the total cost of toy ownership affordable for the masses.

[jimmyz]

I have a 14' flat boat with a 25hp. at full speed (25mph) i only get 4mpg, but the motor is a 1980 2-stroke. I only fish the marsh so i'm normally only using the tolling motor.

[Waterthrush]

MarkJ, there's still canoeing, sailing, kayaking. You can fish from a rowboat. Hunting is still quite accessible - even here in NJ one only has to drive 5 or 6 miles for deer hunting. All those pursuits are still open.

I went kayaking for the first time a couple of months ago and it was magical - paddling along, really seeing things up close, hearing the sounds of the lake.

[oilluber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I')'ve actually done a test to figure out my gas mileage. I have a 16ft Jon boat with a 25hp 4 stroke (most newer boats are four stroke, while older ones have the blue smoke belching 2 strokes..horribly inefficient when idling...most of the gas goes right into the water). Running at an avg of 25mph (my boat tops out at 30mph) using the GPS i logged the miles I went during a boat ride. Before leaving i had weighed the gas tank, upon return i weighed it again.

My boat get 12mpg at 25mph... Not bad for a boat. I bet when idling (roughly 3 or 4mph) you could get in the 20s or 30s mpg.

I just talked to a tournament guy who said the big bass boat guys are easily burning through $200 in gas during just one day of fishing.

I should take some pictures of the boat landing tomorrow. It'll be insanely packed. You'd be surprised at how big of boats people will take out on the Mississippi up here. I was out fishing the other day and a Cigar boat flew by me at about 60mph...

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') thought the boat is most efficient when planing at crusing speed ??
does anyone know ??

[BrazilianPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wxman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BrazilianPO', 'O')MG! That is the end of the world! No more boats for the rich! Let me shed a tear... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Buy a frigging kayak - even better for your health!! Use the spare money to help pay any debt that you might still have. If you have no debts, lucky you, use the money to prepare for when things get really ugly. My goodness, I hope there are not many of those around!!!

[MarkJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oilluber', 'I') thought the boat is most efficient when planing at crusing speed ??does anyone know ??

[shortonoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ight now, today, people in poor countries are starving. People in rich countries are mad they cant drive their boat AND go on vacation.

Still think Peak Oil is a serious threat to rich countries??

[crossthread]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'T')he next big thing in boating.
<snip>Oh, I do have a boat. It's a 15" 1960 (speedboat/ hand layed fiberglass) with a 1963 40hp Big twin. ele start without a charging system. I got $500 into her. Runs great.