[3aidlillahi]

I'm sure most people, if they watch the news, have seen the video of Matthews stomping on Republican talk show host Kevin James. If not, here it is:Web Page Name

Simply put, the guy knew almost nothing about one of the most key points in the run-up to the greatest war ever, which was just a few decades before his birth, one in which his father may have fought in.

It's always good to get a laugh at these fools when they finally get called on their horrible, fear-mongering propaganda, showing that they don't even know what they are talking about, save the talking points in which they demonize their enemies.

Question is: how many guys are like him? Not just in the lack of knowledge of very basic history (I must've learned about this at least three separate times in school) but the complete inability to argue. The guy could have at least known what appeasement is and take a gamble on what Chamberlain did.

[Fiddlerdave]

So nice to see SOMEBODY put one of these dimwad Bush blowhards on the carpet. "you're in a hole, quit digging"

[BigTex]

I was not familiar with Kevin James, but he is an obnoxious idiot.

He should have simply deferred to Matthews immediately and asked for him to describe what he was referring to.

It's not a crime to be unaware of something, but a person ought to be humble enough to just admit it and try to learn something if they can.

I hate dealing with people who think they know everything because it's impossible to share anything with them or have any real give and take in a discussion.

I've always thought it was incredibly stupid to teach history out of a textbook that tried to put long periods of time into some kind of narrative. Life isn't like that, and it's dull when viewed from that perspective.

If I tried to teach someone about the 1980s, for example, and focused on broad themes of greed, materialism and the last stages of the cold war, they would walk away with a vague or no understanding of the 1980s. However, if I focused on a few actual events and really spent a lot of time trying to understand those events, INCLUDING USING NEWSPAPER ARTICLES FROM THE TIME, that would be so much more useful for actually teaching someone something.

I'm thinking maybe cover:

- the 1981 assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan
- the 1983 Marine barracks bombing in Beirut
- the 1985 Chicago Bears phenomenon
- the 1986 Challenger explosion
- one of the meetings between Reagan and Gorbachev

Those are all events that are actually interesting to learn about. You could read newspaper accounts of the event, watch videos of the news coverage, discuss how people reacted and why, what changed as a result of the events, etc. In a word, it would be INTERESTING.

I was an adult before I figured out that history could be incredibly interesting. I never had anyone teach it like I describe above, except for one high school teacher (who was otherwise a horrible teacher) who had us read newspaper accounts of the aftermath of the Kennedy assassination and that just instantly brought things to life.

[Plantagenet]

That guy is as stupid and uneducated as the liberal Seattle Times editor who tried to defend Obama from the "appeasement" charge by saying Hitler had a perfect right to take over other countries and appeasement by Chamberlain wasn't such a bad idea

Seattle liberal and newspaper editor stands up for Hitler to show Obama is right on appeasement

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat guy is as stupid and uneducated as the liberal Seattle Times editor who tried to defend Obama from the "appeasement" charge by saying Hitler had a perfect right to take over other countries and appeasement by Chamberlain wasn't such a bad idea

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'W')hat Bush is doing is judging people like Chamberlain on the basis of information that he at that time didn't have. Moreover he is judging Chamberlain on the basis of a morality which did not exist at that period. Morality is not a God-given, universal, black and white thing as Bush makes us believe, it is a thing which evolves.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat guy is as stupid and uneducated as the liberal Seattle Times editor who tried to defend Obama from the "appeasement" charge by saying Hitler had a perfect right to take over other countries and appeasement by Chamberlain wasn't such a bad idea

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t was not a "normal" practice.