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Are most Americans 'lazy' due to modern technology?

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Unread postby oowolf » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 17:56:35

Get this: Stopped at a "garage sale" in ritzy Hayden Lake McMansion, picked up a 2 year old microwave for 25$(I buy for re-sale). Ritzy rich lady says:"I have more microwaves, leads me inside and every friggen bedroom has not only its own microwave but a fridge and big screen tv. She was replacing the microwaves because they were "too old"(2years)--probably because she saw new ones with dvd players built in or some other stupid crap.
And this nation is full of human beings who have been brought to this sorry state of existence.
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Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 18:55:48

We only have TWO refrigirators and *gasp* ONE microwave! And I can happily say all our cars get over 20mpg. And we only have 1 energy sucking hdtv.

/not my fault family is 'typical'
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Unread postby BabyPeanut » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 20:34:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeW', 'a') refrigerator costs something like $30/yr to run.

Where did you get that figure?
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Unread postby BabyPeanut » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 20:36:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'G')et this: Stopped at a "garage sale" in ritzy Hayden Lake McMansion, picked up a 2 year old microwave for 25$(I buy for re-sale). Ritzy rich lady says:"I have more microwaves, leads me inside and every friggen bedroom has not only its own microwave but a fridge and big screen tv. She was replacing the microwaves because they were "too old"(2years)--probably because she saw new ones with dvd players built in or some other stupid crap.

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Unread postby oowolf » Tue 01 Feb 2005, 17:44:23

I will buy a copy of this book as soon as I can find a used one. I'm obsessed with trying to comprehend how people can be so easily and completely manipulated, and the WHY of manipulating people to exist in ignorance when such activity is so obviously detrimental to our survival as a species. Thanks.
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Unread postby RIPSmithianEconomics » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 05:38:57

Wow. It's hard to believe that my parents didn't have a single fridge until the early 1980's. But, having been to America, I can believe this. You guys have turned being fat into an art form. I'd never seen anyone over 250 pounds except Lennox Lewis himself before I visited Boston.

My question is, didn't people who are 600 pounds wake up someday, realise they were 300 pounds, and start to get a bit, well, nervous?
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Unread postby frankthetank » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 11:00:44

One of my brothers has four...one upstairs, one small one in the basement, a freezer in the basement, and a refrigerator in the garage (not sure if he uses it...i;ll have to ask)...He just likes to buy things that are cheap :)


A lot of people i know have a refrigerator and then keep a freezer in basement/garage...

I wanted to get rid of our refrigerator, but the GF was not impressed with the thought...:(
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Unread postby linlithgowoil » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 11:27:16

americans are a bit annoying though. im referring to the stereotype, of course. the type that expects cheap petrol, a job, a big house, a big car and endless cheap imported goods.

lots of people in my country, scotland, are like this now too. its all to do with status i think. people show you the stuff they've got. 'look at my plasma tv!', and i think, great - you paid £2000 for something that shows the same old crap as i can see on a tv that cost about £300.

its actually going to be hilarious to see it all collapse. i really cant wait. as you may be able to tell, i dont really care for material possessions. as long as i have somewhere to live, food, clothes and maybe a bit of beer, im very happy.
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Unread postby JoeW » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 11:45:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BabyPeanut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeW', 'a') refrigerator costs something like $30/yr to run.

Where did you get that figure?


i didn't. i was trying to remember the energy use guide from when i bought my fridge 3 years ago.
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Unread postby JoeW » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 12:02:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeW', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BabyPeanut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeW', 'a') refrigerator costs something like $30/yr to run.

Where did you get that figure?


i didn't. i was trying to remember the energy use guide from when i bought my fridge 3 years ago.


anyone interested can check out this site:
http://www.glps.net/energychart.htm
there is a list of many household appliances, and their average monthly energy consumption.

they say that at $.06/kwh, a 21-ft3 frost-free refrigerator will cost $3.60/mo.
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Unread postby LaLaLand » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 15:59:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'G')ood God, three and four fridges? Fire place dampers wedged open? I'd like to know how Americans can pay for all of this???


they don't pay for it, they put it on credit.

americans are NOT lazy, they work a lot. are they lazy once they get home from work? you bet, a lot of them are because they just worked a 10 hour day, not including prep time for work. americans just work for the wrong things and concepts, in my opinion. it's such an oxymoron to "work (60 hours a week) for the better life," i.e. articles of convenience, when you have spent so much time at your job that you have little time remaining to enjoy the articles of convenience that you worked hard for. most of those articles of convenience aren't very convenient either, go figure. what fime coffe shops are to paris france, hyper consumption marketing areas are to paris texas... its a culture thing, euros have a hard time grasping it.

a lot of, but not all, americans live a quantitative life style vs. a qualitative life style.
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Unread postby LaLaLand » Fri 04 Feb 2005, 16:10:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NevadaGhosts', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', 'T')hey can't! Your average family isn't buying 6 fridges and sticking one in each room. Only the top 5% can buy this shit.


I have to disagree with that statement. I have seen many, many poor families purchasing (with credit cards) the most worthless crap I have ever seen. Most poor and middle class families do live way beyond their means, due to credit cards.


oooh yea, i totally agree. poor people waste a lot of their money on things they don't need. want some "bling bling" with those food stamps uncle sam just gave you?

almost everyone, in every class, over consumes in the USA. pointing fingers at the upper middle class is totally missing the point.
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Unread postby ECM » Sat 26 Feb 2005, 18:53:02

Just a couple of experiences from my life and the American attitude.

Where I grew up in Illinois money was everything. Want a date with a girl? The first two things that typically come out of their mouths is "What type of car do you drive?" and "What do you do for a living?". Sometimes you would also get " Do you own or rent?". It would be nice to get in a little small talk before being measured up financially. Of course, I should expect no less from a community that has bars where it is well known that you must be a top wage earner as a man to even get service let alone a girl to talk to you and these places are no fancier or upscale than many others.

Also, the phrase I love to hate but heard many times is "I am better than you because I make more money."

Americans are shallow materialist and the Japanese are much the same with many Europeans and Asians catching the disease.
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Unread postby threadbear » Sat 26 Feb 2005, 22:33:08

ECM, I don't mean to be crude, but the way you describe the dating game, would it not be simpler to have an arrangement with a prostitute? These people seem to want to be purchased, but do you want to have a long term committment with one?

When we were young, my friends and I never even discussed how much money a guy did or didn't have. It was considered unhip, superficial and parasitic.
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Re: Are most Americans 'lazy' due to modern technology?

Unread postby Half-Mad » Thu 10 Mar 2005, 13:20:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NevadaGhosts', '
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')What's more, Americans are adding refrigerators so they don't have to travel far for a cold drink. "We're seeing that second, third, or fourth refrigerator in a home," says Elliott. "People want a small one upstairs, one in the basement, maybe one in the garage."


When I read this, I couldn't stop laughing. Talk about lazy. No wonder so many Americans are such lazy fat-asses. How embarassing. :oops:


Just before I moved out of my parents house, many years ago, we had three fridges. One in the kitchen, one in the basement for my father's beer making, and one small bar fridge that was previously unused, but I moved it near the TV to store cola for that last couple years before I moved out.
Right now, I live in a one bedroom apartment, and I have the standard fridge in the kitchen, plus a small deep freezer.
I have friends, who live in a rural area, who have two regular fridges plus a full sized deep freezer.

About a year ago, I saw on some TV show that the standard European fridge size is slightly larger than the bar fridge from my parents home. I was quite surprised. Either most Europeans don't bother with too many frozen / refrigerated foods, or they go shopping a lot more often.

If I was to eat only the foods that are currently frozen in my kitchen, I could survive well for up to a month.

Convinience of only having to go grocery shopping once or twice a month, or laziness. Call it what you want.

Also, my family is middle class. Total household pay has always been less than $60k/a, Canadian.
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