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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby Caine » Sun 18 May 2008, 13:57:15

And what the hell. I'll throw in some creepy abandoned building/malls/stores pics to set the peak oil mood.

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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby cube » Sun 18 May 2008, 14:11:56

I think you'll like this site Caine
http://www.deadmalls.com/

it has nothing to do with PO, it's about shopping malls in decline.
I think we're going to see a lot more stores going belly up in the very near term future through a combination of a sinking dollar and constrained resources.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby mgibbons19 » Sun 18 May 2008, 14:52:00

Cool dead gas stations pics.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby SILENTTODD » Sun 18 May 2008, 16:03:14

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With any luck. the silver lining might be our streets will soon look like this!
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby Twilight » Sun 18 May 2008, 17:32:29

Things always look OK from the air. The luxury of distance.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby timmac » Sun 18 May 2008, 18:23:49

BigTex Wrote >>>>>>>

Anyone remember that movie from about 1978 or so with Lee Majors and Burgess Meredith where it's a post oil world, but for some reason Lee Majors is driving a race car and Burgess Meredith is chasing him in a Sabre fighter plane?





Oh yea I remember that show also when I was a kid,, Do you also remember Soylent Green..........
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Artistic photography and abandoned buildings

Unread postby Dvanharn » Sun 18 May 2008, 19:15:10

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Belgian Henk van Rensbergen, a commercial jet pilot, has a website named abandoned-places.com that is an incredible showcase of abandoned buildings. He is an excellent photographer, and his few words are an appropriate companion to the photographs. The site has been up and maintained for many years.

He treats the sites he visits as one should treat the wilderness, and leave everything as he found it. Unfortunately, others destroy, steal and vandalize, and Henk has reduced his postings because his site is a source of information that allows the destroyers to locate new targets. He reflects on this - "Nature is a powerful but slow and gentle force that takes back what used to be hers, giving age the beauty of decay. Here, other forces are in play, destructive, violent, criminal and efficient. They erase what took years to build, they destroy whatever value this place still had. I can not believe this happens without a reason."

I find myself drawn to the obscene beauty of abandoned-places.com, and once a year or so, I surf through it's pages. Many of the factories he photographs are symbols of the industrial revolution and the rise of human energy use to it's current unsustainable level.

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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby Revi » Sun 18 May 2008, 19:37:46

Awesome images. Picturing post peak is the first step. I think we'll have to recycle all that metal and glass, and put the land back to work. There will be gas lines and pandemonium, but then we'll have to get back to work.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby Caine » Sun 18 May 2008, 23:02:38

Thanks for all the great replies and links everyone. I know these pictures may be hard for some to look at and imagine that it could happen soon. But I think later, after some time, people will adapt and things will be more local. Life will be much harder, but I have a feeling many of us will be happier, too. I don't think peak oil is the end of the world. Just the end of the modern age.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby JustaGirl » Mon 19 May 2008, 17:59:00

You'd probably love pictures of Chernobyl. As long as the US doesn't end up looking like that, I will be OK.

I tend to agree with oilfinder though. Not every suburb will be abandoned, no doubt some will. I think mine will fare OK. We are within walking/biking distance of 2 grocery stores, city hall, local farmer markets, and numerous other shops. I will soon be able to bike to the new light-rail. I also live by the cargo train tracks, which would seem like a good food drop off location, post peak.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby cube » Mon 19 May 2008, 18:35:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'W')e are within walking/biking distance of 2 grocery stores, city hall, local farmer markets, and numerous other shops. I will soon be able to bike to the new light-rail. I also live by the cargo train tracks, which would seem like a good food drop off location, post peak.
There's a slight problem with your argument. Just because you're within walking distance to a grocery store that doesn't mean everyone else is. A new grocery store these days is about a quarter the size of a Walmart store. That's VERY big. A store that size is simply too big to survive by relying only on people who live within walking or bicycle distance. It probably requires everybody within a 6 mile radius to give it enough business just to survive. It's not just grocery stores it's just about every type of retail store: clothing, electronics, department store, etc...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say everything is going to collapse within 24 hours after the clock strikes 12. I'm just saying it's going to be very interesting how people are going to try figure this out.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby JustaGirl » Mon 19 May 2008, 19:05:24

I would venture to say 70%, maybe even more, of the people around here who go to these stores COULD walk/bike if they wanted to. At this time they chose not too. There's also 2 walmarts within biking distance of me(and thousands of others), but I try to avoid going there if possible. I just don't see all 6 of these places going out of business, Maybe 2,3, or even 4. My point was not all suburbs are set up in a way that requires a car to continue daily life. Of course if you work 30 minutes away you're going to have a big problem, assuming you'll still have a job & you can't work from home.

Yes it will be interesting to see what happens. I have been pleased with the little steps I see my state taking. Although they are doing a lot of things that seem counterproductive at the same time.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby cube » Mon 19 May 2008, 19:57:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'I') would venture to say 70%, maybe even more, of the people around here who go to these stores COULD walk/bike if they wanted to.
I guess there won't be any need for fitness clubs in a post PO world. :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'I') just don't see all 6 of these places going out of business, Maybe 2,3, or even 4.
Agreed. People still need to eat, so it's physically impossible to literally have every store go out of business. Maybe in the distant Mad Max Future, yes, but within the near term....no.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby highlander » Mon 19 May 2008, 20:05:58

The small towns around here used to have several gas/grocery marts. Many are now shutting down. We will likely see the contraction continue. then long lines. Then shortages. That is likely when TSHTF.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby Milret2 » Mon 19 May 2008, 21:02:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'Y')ou'd probably love pictures of Chernobyl. As long as the US doesn't end up looking like that, I will be OK.

I tend to agree with oilfinder though. Not every suburb will be abandoned, no doubt some will. I think mine will fare OK. We are within walking/biking distance of 2 grocery stores, city hall, local farmer markets, and numerous other shops. I will soon be able to bike to the new light-rail. I also live by the cargo train tracks, which would seem like a good food drop off location, post peak.


I remembered finding some pictures on the internet several years ago showing what the abandoned towns and farms of the Chernobyl incident looked like. I remember interesting shots of buildings slowly going to ruin with personal objects and artifacts scattered here and there and I thought I would see if I could find those images for this very interesting thread started by Caine. I got sidetracked by this URL--> http://todayspictures.slate.com/inmotio ... chernobyl/ (first twenty seconds is an ad, sorry). I would warn folks that this is not for the faint of heart. It is an essay on how children in Belarus have been affected by radiation exposure in utero.

Of course .. I am sure TPTB will make our new (and the old ones ... heck I live twenty miles from Diablo Canyon, a reactor on the central California coast;-) reactors perfectly safe and such things will never happen again.

Here are pictures of Chernobyl that may be more in line with Caine's thread -->http://englishrussia.com/?p=1309#more-1309

Great thread Caine.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby patience » Tue 20 May 2008, 09:47:13

Those gas lines bring 1974 to mind. And maybe 2008, '09.
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Re: A glimpse of things to come?

Unread postby Twilight » Tue 20 May 2008, 17:30:57

It brings 2000 to mind here. Of course, no-one actually learnt anything.
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