[Ludi]

incubator info

[Homesteader]

Thanks Ludi. That was fast. Interesting too. Egg turner will be a possible future career for all the current folks working in call centers.

Actually, some sort of egg roller could be devised with out to much gray matter engagement.

And the alcohol lamps could be converted to ethanol. . . .

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')hey could perhaps transition to the Solviva model of greenhouse growing, in which chickens and rabbits are used to provide supplemental heat. This model requires some photovoltaics to run fans.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', 'F')POI I've been looking at horticultural set-ups for sale in Northern Britain recently - the farm in France is going on the market next week so we're pretty serious (groan).

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')I'd thought about ways in which the greenhouses could be heated (wood, mainly) but even then you are fighting against the natural climate of the area.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'T')hanks Ludi. That was fast. Interesting too. Egg turner will be a possible future career for all the current folks working in call centers.

Actually, some sort of egg roller could be devised with out to much gray matter engagement.

And the alcohol lamps could be converted to ethanol. . . .

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')
I am so, so sorry that you have to leave your great home!

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')I'd thought about ways in which the greenhouses could be heated (wood, mainly) but even then you are fighting against the natural climate of the area.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I') love both of you girls...

[Pops]

I just received a message from John Ikerd, I had mentioned this thread and after checking it out he said:

The last chapter in Crisis and Opportunity is "Agriculture, After Fossil Energy."

Just thought I'd pass that along...

[Pops]

Reading through the Professors recent papers (linked to above I came across This One:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he 2007 Word of the Year was “Locavore,” according to the Oxford University Press. “The past year saw the popularization of a trend in using locally grown ingredients, taking advantage of seasonally available foodstuffs that can be bought and prepared without the need for extra preservatives” (http://blog.oup.com/2007/11/locavore/). However, the locavore movement is not just about eating seasonally; it is the latest phase in a transition from an industrial to a sustainable food economy. The local foods movement began in the United States in the 1960s among the “back to the landers.” They began the “natural foods” movement, not only as a rejection of synthetic fertilizers and pesticides but also a rejection of the industrialization of agriculture.

[green_achers]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'R')eading through the Professors recent papers (linked to above I came across This One:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y question here is simply this:
Is there a dawning realization that we (the human race) might need to change what we are doing and GW is just the popular face at this point?

Will such change the buying habits at the grocery store, which of course is the demand side of the supply and demand equation in Ag?

[deMolay]

Lets not forget that ethanol/biodiesel were all pushed big time by the enviro weenies. Without a thought to the unintended consequences. PC feel good Liberal policies. And our weak minded spineless politicians bought into it, hook line and sinker. So did many right here at first. Me I would still go for bio/waste oil diesel. But only using the scraps and waste from farming.

[SpringCreekFarm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'L')ets not forget that ethanol/biodiesel were all pushed big time by the enviro weenies. Without a thought to the unintended consequences. PC feel good Liberal policies. And our weak minded spineless politicians bought into it, hook line and sinker. So did many right here at first. Me I would still go for bio/waste oil diesel. But only using the scraps and waste from farming.

[Ludi]

Oh those damn environmentalists!

[Gerben]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'L')ets not forget that ethanol/biodiesel were all pushed big time by the enviro weenies.

[Pops]

We seem to be rambling a bit here. Lets go back to the question of textiles. While certainly wool in an option in some places it isn't great everywhere. Flax and hemp are both less input intensive than cotton and have a larger growing region.

But the fact is we use lots of petroleum based textiles and we in the US ship raw material to China and finished goods back home. Of course with less disposable income the demand for textiles will decrease greatly but if we are to re-localize then we will also need to reinvent the textile manufacturing process as well as the production of the raw material
.

http://www.sda-uk.org/materials/textile ... xtiles.htm
All which cited:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05 ... erview.php

[Pops]

I forgot to mention that flax makes linen as well as linseed oil...