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Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby dukey » Mon 12 May 2008, 07:32:40

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') health scare has erupted after a common preservative used in popular soft drinks and fruit juices was linked to serious cell damage, prompting health experts to warn parents to limit their children’s consumption of the drinks.

Research from Britain showed the preservative 211, known as sodium benzoate, could switch off vital parts of DNA, seriously damaging cells.

Molecular biology expert Peter Piper, of Sheffield University, found that vast amounts could even result in cirrhosis of the liver and degenerative diseases such as Parkinson’s.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')These chemicals have the ability to cause severe damage to DNA in the mitochondria to the point that they inactivate it: they knock it out altogether,” said Professor Piper, who has been studying the effects of sodium benzoate since publishing a research paper in 1999.

“The mitochondria consumes the oxygen to give you energy and if you damage it, as happens in a number of diseased states, then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously. And a whole array of diseases are being tied to damage to this DNA, including Parkinson’s and quite a lot of neuro-degenerative diseases, but above all the whole process of ageing.”


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')odium benzoate has also been linked with behavioural problems in children, aggravating asthma and foetal abnormalities.


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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby vision-master » Mon 12 May 2008, 09:52:59

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Mexican Coke fans say cane sugar gives it a sweeter flavor than the corn syrup in the U.S. version.
"It's got a much different, cleaner taste," Craven said. "You don't have that syrupy coat in your mouth after you drink it."
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby Roy » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:39:37

When are "smoke free" facilities going to become soft drink free?? Maybe when they don't make money off the vending machines.
Another reason not to drink that stuff, and particularly not to give it to children. Hey, what about the coke machine at my kids' elementary school?
[sarcasm]Oh, that's probably some tinfoil hat wearing medical researcher, after all, they wouldn't sell it to our kids if it wasn't safe? Right? [/sarcasm]
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby PhebaAndThePilgrim » Mon 12 May 2008, 15:56:06

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
I have not tasted soda pop in 20 years.
A very long time ago a doctor told me not to touch soda pop. I have a family history of osteoporosis (medical talk for "You're getting old)
I have had osteoporosis for many years.
The doctor told me that the phosphoric acid in soda pop actually leaches the calcium out of a woman's bones.
Phosphoric acid is very very bad on your stomach lining.
Chemically reacts with stomach acid in a very bad way.
Carbon markers on soda pop tested in the U.S. show it to be 100% corn carbon markers. The rest is all synthetic chemicals and flavors.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby vision-master » Mon 12 May 2008, 16:01:03

An here I thought it was the rum maken me feel like this the next day.......... :razz:
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby PrairieMule » Mon 12 May 2008, 21:03:54

I for one need to cut back on my daily dosage. Has anyone else here kicked the habit?
If you give a man a fish you will have kept him from hunger for a day. If you teach a man to fish he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby jasonraymondson » Mon 12 May 2008, 21:09:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'I') for one need to cut back on my daily dosage. Has anyone else here kicked the habit?


No soda for me.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby Homesteader » Mon 12 May 2008, 22:17:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'N')o soda for me.
Me neither. Never liked it. Parents wouldn't allow it in the house. Same with TV.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Tue 13 May 2008, 01:31:54

That's funny that you say that... I'm drinking a big gulp Dr.Pepper right now, while simultaneously chain-smoking unfiltered cigarettes and eating a bucket of fried chicken. Soda is bad for me? Like I didn't already know that.

Who cares? It's very unlikely that any of us will be alive 30 years from now anyways. If peak oil doesn't do us in, global warming will.

The people of this longevity health-nut crowd act like peak oil isn't gonna happen. They seem to think they'll live to be 80 and live in a cushy retiremnet community. The truth is, most of us won't be lucky enough to live long enough for the soda, fast food, alcohol and the Marlboros to kill us. Life in the post-oil age will be short and brutal. So, if you want a soda, have a soda. Don't worry so much. There will be plenty of worrying to do later.

May as well enjoy the junk food while it's still around, because when oil prices get high enough, so will food ( if it's even available at that point). It's likely that most of us will starve to death and those with a food stash will be killed by hungry people.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby jasonraymondson » Tue 13 May 2008, 01:52:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'T')hat's funny that you say that... I'm drinking a big gulp Dr.Pepper right now, while simultaneously chain-smoking unfiltered cigarettes and eating a bucket of fried chicken. --snip--
May as well enjoy the junk food while it's still around, because when oil prices get high enough, so will food ( if it's even available at that point). It's likely that most of us will starve to death and those with a food stash will be killed by hungry people.
I am sorry, but being in shape is to important. I need to be mobile and have the ability to fight should things get bad. But, I when the shit does hit the fan, I will take back up smoking.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Tue 13 May 2008, 02:14:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am sorry, but being in shape is to important. I need to be mobile and have the ability to fight should things get bad. But, I when the shit does hit the fan, I will take back up smoking.
Do you plan on becoming Lord Humongous when the Expletive deleted. hits the fan?

It doesn't matter how fit you are or how well you fight, if you're outnumbered, then you're screwed. If you really want to survive, then hide out in the mountains and learn to hunt. Fighting won't be the way to survive, because there will always be someone bigger and badder than you.

But do what you want... I stopped caring about survival along time ago. I'm just gonna enjoy the benefits of relatively cheap oil while it's still around. When the Expletive deleted. hits the fan, I'll probably starve to death (maybe not though, because I'll eat pretty much anything including bugs or squirrels) or be disposed of violently.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby jasonraymondson » Tue 13 May 2008, 04:06:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'B')ut do what you want... I stopped caring about survival along time ago. I'm just gonna enjoy the benefits of relatively cheap oil while it's still around. When the shit hits the fan, I'll probably starve to death (maybe not though, because I'll eat pretty much anything including bugs or squirrels) or be disposed of violently.
You can have the cowards way out, I am a warrior, a soldier. I will go out fighting, that is my way.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby vision-master » Tue 13 May 2008, 09:43:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') am sorry, but being in shape is to important. I need to be mobile and have the ability to fight should things get bad. But, I when the shit does hit the fan, I will take back up smoking.
Get yer self a bunch of estate pipes. You can get em real cheap right now on Ebay. Smoking the pipe will be the way to go post peak. Just like them ol timers back in da 30's........
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby dinopello » Tue 13 May 2008, 09:52:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'G')et yer self a bunch of estate pipes. You can get em real cheap right now on Ebay. Smoking the pipe will be the way to go post peak. Just like them ol timers back in da 30's........


Hookahs are really popular here. There is a store a few blocks from my house that sells a fine assortment.

Growing up we rarely had anything but water, milk, or wine. I like my coke with JD.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby vision-master » Tue 13 May 2008, 10:02:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '[')url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah]Hookahs[/url] are really popular here. There is a store a few blocks from my house that sells a fine assortment. Growing up we rarely had anything but water, milk, or wine. I like my coke with JD.
Capt'n M private stock is really good too.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby midnight-gamer » Tue 13 May 2008, 12:01:00

I rarely drink soda due to my coffee addiction.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby misterno » Tue 13 May 2008, 13:24:40

I have not drunk any kind of soda for the last 10 years never smoked in my life and never drunk alcohol in my life.

I am an organic man. :) I am just not certified yet. :)
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby lotrfan55345 » Tue 13 May 2008, 17:47:00

US soda is nastyyyy.
Sodas from other parts of the world contain no sodium benzonate or "high fructose corn syrup".

Try tasting a Fanta from Spain and a Fanta from the USA.
Taste the difference.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Tue 13 May 2008, 20:49:40

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I am sorry, but being in shape is to important. I need to be mobile and have the ability to fight should things get bad. But, I when the shit does hit the fan, I will take back up smoking.


Do you plan on becoming Lord Humongous when the shit hits the fan?

It doesn't matter how fit you are or how well you fight, if you're outnumbered, then you're screwed. If you really want to survive, then hide out in the mountains and learn to hunt. Fighting won't be the way to survive, because there will always be someone bigger and badder than you.

But do what you want... I stopped caring about survival along time ago. I'm just gonna enjoy the benefits of relatively cheap oil while it's still around. When the shit hits the fan, I'll probably starve to death (maybe not though, because I'll eat pretty much anything including bugs or squirrels) or be disposed of violently.



You can have the cowards way out, I am a warrior, a soldier. I will go out fighting, that is my way.


I bet you won't last a week. Like I said, there will always be someone bigger and badder than you, and even if you are the biggest and baddest, you will eventually be outnumbered.

Btw, who are you calling a coward? I went camping in the woods and ate nothing but insects for a week. What kind of survivalist shit have you done? Probably nothing. Or do you still live on campus in the city? Trust me, a college degree won't be worth shit in an era without cheap oil.

Also, I didn't say I wasn't gonna try and survive, I just said I don't expect to survive long after tshtf... but who knows for sure? The only thing I said is that I was gonna enjoy some of the benefits of cheap oil while they last. I'm not gonna worry about bad habits that will kill me when I'm 80, considering I won't live to see 80.
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Re: Drink soft drinks - get cell damage

Postby PrairieMule » Tue 13 May 2008, 21:13:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'U')S soda is nastyyyy.
Sodas from other parts of the world contain no sodium benzonate or "high fructose corn syrup".

Try tasting a Fanta from Spain and a Fanta from the USA.
Taste the difference.


When I was in Japan and Thailand they have Coke Light instead of Diet Coke w/ Nutrasweet. Coke Light tastes so much better.
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