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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Tue 29 Apr 2008, 01:29:50

I know I run a pimping service and all, but other than that, I have no luck with women due to my ever pessimestic additude towards the coming shit storm. I have met several girls I was interested in this past couple months and when I started talking about peak oil and energy depletion, they just roll their eyes and it kills everything right there.

I feel for all of you going through these messes and I hope you all the best of luck

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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby Grifter » Tue 29 Apr 2008, 04:24:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'F')unny thing happenned to me tonight. I got a phone call from my cousin, who was best man at our wedding and who became close friends with my Wife as well. Turns out he knew two weeks before she told me of her plans for Divorce, and despite the fact that she has denied it to me she has been having an affair behind my back since February. It also turns out that she made Divorcing myself her New Years Resolution, so she has no remorse about the affair or the divorce, after all.


Oh my god!

That turned out to be what was happening in my marriage. Sure there was all sorts of talk about problems, I left her with more than half of everything (not wanting her to think I was a b******d).

Its weird, there is a difference though, I (ok then we) had finished paying off our debts a few months earlier.

But yeah man, did I feel a fool? Get a lawyer.

For what its worth its well over a year on and life is good. New love interest recently and the only worry is that she'll come after me for more stuff, however it seems that as I was foolishly generous in the beginning I should be somewhat protected.

I feel for you Tanada, I'm sure you've heard it before but your best off rid of her.

You must share that debt. :x
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby alokin » Tue 29 Apr 2008, 06:14:53

If you get divorced because of PO you would get divorced anyway. My husband believes a bit in PO but not too much. It would be rather boring if both think exactly the same.
But he likes the lifestyle, preparing for PO, but we would live like this anyway, gardening, chicken and simple.
The only thing he did not agree was to leave his well paid job and move to the country - maybe it was wise - and live like his grandmother did.

A relationship must stand different opinions, however if one likes all sort of luxury and spending and the other is more frugal this can cause difficulties.
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby Pops » Tue 29 Apr 2008, 13:14:59

Sorry to hear about your troubles Tanada.

If it were me I would do whatever possible to not get attorneys involved - the more rancor the more billable hours. Sorry I can't be more helpful...

As well your spat too Kathy.

I guess the only thing I can think is Carlin might be seeing the effects of the things you have been quietly preparing for these years and is perhaps feeling a little of the stuff most of us felt when it comes to dawn.

He denied, then negotiated (by helping out on some projects) and is perhaps now getting angry that your forecast might have had some truth.

I don't really know but I do know that lots of times guys will get defensive when his plan turns out to be incorrect. And like you say the added stress of providing for the new kids in an shaky economy is an added stress.

If I remember he works of the farm and you work at home, just from my experience brining in the bacon can be a load, not to diminish your part of the load in any way. Point is I feel much more control growing food than I do working for a wage or in fact selling into a market.

We sold some steers at the auction last week and I was pretty frustrated when we got the check. In fact, we had one 600# Guernsey steer that brought $203 - the Holsteins were of course better but disappointing as well.

My point is that I mopped around for a day or two second guessing myself, my plans and my options to do better and perhaps that is what Carlin is feeling lately. If I'm totally off just ignore me :)

As you know I am expert at nothing, kid, just thinking out loud.


Hang in there, otherwise you'll have to change your handle!
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby CarlinsDarlin » Tue 29 Apr 2008, 17:22:09

Pops,
You know I always value your advice and input. You may be right and there's an element of that anger lately. It's not that he's got the anger that I view as a problem. Rather it's how he deals with it that we need to work on. I'm not planning on changing my handle just yet, but there are times when I want an alternate one for the day :).

We've got some stuff to work through, but like SCF said, I'm too damn loyal - not planning to go anywhere. I suppose all marriages have their ups and downs. Having been through one bad one prior to Carlin, I've learned a lot about how NOT to handle disputes.

We have some talking to do, still, and a few more bumps to iron out, but I think (I'm pretty sure, actually) he's just as stuck as I am - in a good way. We love each other, but occasionally we just have to butt heads. This weekend was one of those times.

Thanks for your support.
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby FreakOil » Mon 05 May 2008, 11:01:37

I feel like a bit of a jerk writing about my petty problems, but I thought it might help to get it all out. I have my own Peak Oil break-up story. I just got done talking to her, and it's officially over between us.

She understands the crises ahead, but simply doesn't want to do anything about it. That's the frustrating thing. Peak Oil, global warming, food shortages, overpopulation, environmental degradation, aquifier depletion; she knows about it all but prefers to stick her head in the sand and "think positive." She didn't want me to talk about it at all. Now is clearly the time to act, as if the writing wasn't on the wall already.

We had so much in common, too. It took me so long to meet someone who enjoys all the things I do. She even wanted me to teach her how to fish. It just seems impossible to find someone like her these days. She has so many other wonderful qualities that it would be demeaning to simply write them in a list.

I'm leaving Hong Kong soon to continue my journey. I'll be studying permaculture in Thailand, doing some freelance writing and living on the cheap. But I'm leaving China with a heavy heart.
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby ShinyOldLady » Mon 05 May 2008, 13:56:00

Mr. Freak Oil,

I was sorry to hear about your breakup. I have friends that just glaze over and shut down when confronted by problems that are just too bizarre or extreme to handle. I was talking to one of my best friends about a donation to a rescue group that works with animals and I noticed she was really blank when pictures of dogs saved from fighting rings were on the screen, etc. In fact, if you asked her about them, she didn't even recall them. I think it's just a coping mechanism. But she's good in a pinch, cuz she does what I tell her to do, without questions. She just can't be the decision making, organizing leader.

Maybe its ok to have good followers around. They are trusting you to do their thinking for them in circumstances like that, but maybe they realize their own weaknesses and that's how they are making up for it. Maybe she could be a good follower for you? I'm older and get tired of being alone sometimes. Maybe you could settle for not perfect and still have a good thing there.
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 05 May 2008, 16:46:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'I') feel like a bit of a jerk writing about my petty problems, but I thought it might help to get it all out. I have my own Peak Oil break-up story. I just got done talking to her, and it's officially over between us. ... But I'm leaving China with a heavy heart.

I'm so sorry about your loss, FO. And, it is silly to feel like a jerk. Where else do you know of where there are people who understand, indeed, where there are people who are going through the same thing for the same reason?
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 05 May 2008, 17:04:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I')'ve been there too, and it's the worst. What's hard to figure out is whether it's better to just end it or to try to get her back just to have it fall apart again.

Much more challenging than assembling a good bugout bag.

No kids, I assume?

Best of luck. Very tough times there.


The worst thing is, this was the second marriage for each of us and both having gone through it before we anticipated this time being different. Sadly I was too foolish, she has spent the last two months aranging her lists of wants and arranging the paperwork accordingly. Now I have to go over the list umpteen times to make sure I don't end up rowing on a very shitty creek with no paddles in sight. She even put the Christmas gift she got me last December as well as some wedding presents from our marriage on her half of the property division table she drew up.

This is definatly not the time for me to try and protect her interests as well as mine, she is doing all too good a job of setting herself on the winning side.

Sorry if I sound bitter, this whole thing has been a real punch in the kidney's, blindside, life changing event. Hell we had made plans for two weeks vacation plus my step son's high school graduation at the end of May. I was anticipating all sorts of events the rest of the year that have now evaporated like pixie dust, hell I just confirmed with my boss last week that I had the Graduation weekend off for a four day trip.


Wait a minute. You mention a step-son? Don't tell me you've been raising her son, too. Has she been working? It looks to me like she chumped you. Get a really good mediator. Don't go the legal route and battle it out in court. A good mediator will make an appeal to her higher self. Does it not strike you as odd, she springs this on you, just as her child is graduating and can fend for himself?
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 05 May 2008, 17:23:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'I') feel like a bit of a jerk writing about my petty problems, but I thought it might help to get it all out. I have my own Peak Oil break-up story. I just got done talking to her, and it's officially over between us.

She understands the crises ahead, but simply doesn't want to do anything about it. That's the frustrating thing. Peak Oil, global warming, food shortages, overpopulation, environmental degradation, aquifier depletion; she knows about it all but prefers to stick her head in the sand and "think positive." She didn't want me to talk about it at all. Now is clearly the time to act, as if the writing wasn't on the wall already.

We had so much in common, too. It took me so long to meet someone who enjoys all the things I do. She even wanted me to teach her how to fish. It just seems impossible to find someone like her these days. She has so many other wonderful qualities that it would be demeaning to simply write them in a list.

I'm leaving Hong Kong soon to continue my journey. I'll be studying permaculture in Thailand, doing some freelance writing and living on the cheap. But I'm leaving China with a heavy heart.


Before my brother met his present wife, he had a string of relationships with women he had "lots in common with", for a few months. After the relationship became more comfortable, it turned out they had no interest in world affairs, ecololgical problems, peak everything, etc...

Don't be so sure you had that much in common. It could have been fake interest to hold your interest. Women are devious. Take it from a woman.
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Re: Lost a relationship or marriage over peak oil?

Unread postby bodigami » Mon 05 May 2008, 19:24:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auscanman', 'N')o, but the requirement for any potential partner of mine to understand peak oil, and want to do as much as possible to prepare for it rules out 99.9999% or so of all women around my age.


This happens for me too... and of those that are peak oil aware (lol, Ms. TwinPeaks) I prefer those that know how to meditate... and be fuckable... lol, I may just become a monk, and call it done :lol:
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