[FourOfSwords]

"One of the saddest things is that the only thing that a man can do for eight hours a day, day after day, is work. You can't eat eight hours a day nor drink for eight hours a day nor make love for eight hours—all you can do for eight hours is work. Which is the reason why man makes himself and everybody else so miserable and unhappy."
—William Faulkner
Alex-doff's hat to W. Faulkner.

[RonMN]

Fourofswords Wrote:
nor make love for eight hours

Speak for yourself

[FourOfSwords]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', '[')b]Fourofswords Wrote:
nor make love for eight hours

Speak for yourself

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', '"')One of the saddest things is that the only thing that a man can do for eight hours a day, day after day, is work. You can't eat eight hours a day nor drink for eight hours a day nor make love for eight hours—all you can do for eight hours is work. Which is the reason why man makes himself and everybody else so miserable and unhappy."
—William Faulkner
Alex-doff's hat to W. Faulkner.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', '[')b]Fourofswords Wrote:
nor make love for eight hours

Speak for yourself

[Denny]

According to the third chapter of Genesis, being toilers is our deemed position in the scheme of things, our punishment for the original sin of Adam:

"By the sweat of your face
you shall eat bread
until you return to the ground,
for out of it you were taken;
you are dust,
and to dust you shall return."

So, when we are toiling, we completing the mission God has set out for us, and should be satisfied with that. I am not depressed about it. I find satisfaction in it. I think that is still preferable to the scheme of things God set out for women, the punishment for Eve's sin:

"To the woman he said,
"I will greatly increase your pangs in childbearing;
in pain you shall bring forth children"

[Ludi]

I'm not understanding why you are still cursed if Christ died for your sins....



<<<<< works much less than 8 hrs a day

[Ainan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FourOfSwords', 'n')or drink for eight hours a day

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m not understanding why you are still cursed if Christ died for your sins....

[FourOfSwords]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m not understanding why you are still cursed if Christ died for your sins....

[Denny]

[quote="Ludi"]I'm not understanding why you are still cursed if Christ died for your sins....

We are not cursed. We are saved. But, the reality is that our willfulness, manifested in so many ways, from sloth to covetousness to sexual excess, is at odds with obedience to God and impairs our conformance with the true spiritual place we should be in to find God's will for us. It is that in turn which leads to happiness. Though it could be argued that many, such as Mother Teresa did not find that happiness on earth, but we expect she has found it now. Its all a bit of mystery, coupled with faith and hope.

The apostle Paul wrote that he did the things he should not, and did not do the things he should. True with us all. Yet, he is among the greatest of all the saints.

[Ludi]

Denny, why are you still being punished for the sin of Adam if you have been saved? Why are you still suffering under the curse of Adam?

[hironegro]

Maybe it's because we're animals.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')enny, why are you still being punished for the sin of Adam if you have been saved? Why are you still suffering under the curse of Adam?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', ' ')But, without that sin of Adam, there would be no need for our Christ.

[kpeavey]

I work 12 to 16 hour shifts for weeks at a time, and I am usually in a pretty good mood.

I have no wife or kids, so that may have something to do with it.

[RonMN]

Ludi Wrote:
What does "saved" mean if you are still under the curse of Adam, being punished for the sins of Adam?

Why, if Christ died for you, are you still being punished?


Ludi,
would it surprize you to know that many, many Christians ask this same question / face this same dilemma? (especially after reading the book of Job).

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')What does "saved" mean if you are still under the curse of Adam, being punished for the sins of Adam?


Why, if Christ died for you, are you still being punished?

[BigTex]

To the OP, some of you may be aware of how people overestimate how happy or unhappy they will be as a result of good or bad things that happen to them.

Since we overestimate how happy good things will make us, we are in a perpetual state of disappointment that the latest good thing that happened to us didn't make us happier. Meanwhile, we don't notice that the bad things aren't as bad as we thought they would be.