[charliebrownout]

What is your tipping point for saying, with great certitude, that things have gotten out of control and it is time to run for the hills?

What Main Stream news item would make your heart stop a moment before reaching for the Bug-Out bag and breaking into a run?


ALSO, more positively....

What would tip you over to believing society has a brighter future...that we can collectively get a handle on this problem and avoid chaos?

Me, I'm not sure what my tipping point is. I'm not sure if I have one. (Outside the obvious ones: no gas in town, mass panic.)

[BigTex]

Just becaues a tipping point is reached doesn't mean it's time to do anything different. Staying put is probably a good idea for most people.

[Ludi]

I ran for the hills many years ago, sort of (not very distant hills, actually).


People should go or stay wherever they feel most comfortable and safe (all other things being equal, of course).

[vision-master]

My tipping point is in direct proportion to the amount I drink.

[Ludi]

What would tip me over into not being a doomer?


Seeing the majority of people transitioning to a low-energy way of life in an orderly, intelligent, informed manner.

[charliebrownout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat would tip me over into not being a doomer?


Seeing the majority of people transitioning to a low-energy way of life in an orderly, intelligent, informed manner.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '[')
If energy dependent humanity was a horse would you bet on it?

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'W')hat is your tipping point for saying, with great certitude, that things have gotten out of control and it is time to run for the hills?

What Main Stream news item would make your heart stop a moment before reaching for the Bug-Out bag and breaking into a run?

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat would tip me over into not being a doomer?


Seeing the majority of people transitioning to a low-energy way of life in an orderly, intelligent, informed manner.

[Gandalf_the_White]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat would tip me over into not being a doomer?


Seeing the majority of people transitioning to a low-energy way of life in an orderly, intelligent, informed manner.

[PrairieMule]

Day 3 of a trucker strike.

[jlw61]

Since I don't think human nature will change anytime soon:

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Tipping points - Head to the Hills:
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Announcer: "Russian ICBMs on the way, news at 11"

Turning on TV and seeing nothing but routes out of the city displayed on every channel.

Russian president announcing that "Technically, we are at war with the United States"

King George announcing the US elections were canceled.

Space ships appearing above the cities.

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Tipping points - turn on TV to make the decision.
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Successful terrorist explosions cutting off oil in several major oil fields.

A terrorist nuke going off anywhere in the US, Canada or western Europe.


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Tipping point - temporarily kills my concerns of PO
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At least two cornucopian miracles of technology, one of which replaced liquid fuel at the retail/power equivalent of (in Jan 1, 2008 dollars) $2 per gallon.

[Mquinon3]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'D')ay 3 of a trucker strike.

[Ferretlover]

I've tipped. There are too many problems, developing and in place, for any population or government, even if they had the will, to deal with in a timely manner.
For the most part, humans react, they do not look ahead and plan for contigencies.
Unless a deed to a fully set-up isolated farm drops out of the sky, we will have to make our stand where we live now.
I still think that we have about 2-4 years before chaos rules each day.
My opinion will be completely confirmed by any number of things happening: constant shortages-food, gas, employment; when the MSM divides it time between bad news and very bad news (and some perky idiot is given a show about how to roast that squirrel and what sauce to serve with it, etc); when beggars or gangs come to your house to beg or steal; when you have to make an appointment to food shop; schools shut down because they can't pay the staff or fuel the busses; there is a waiting list for plywood for people who want to board up their windows from the inside for (very little) extra protection; the Internet is shut down for the common consumer or only available at certain times during the week; martial law is imposed; etc, etc, etc.
We still have time to prep, but not all that much.
Time is the most precious commodity-it cannot be replaced.

[Pops]

No tipping point.

I have never believed things are "in control".

That feeling is just the result of a sometimes empty belly I suppose, and as ludi said I'm already in the hills - little though they are.

MSM could tell me about chemical release from a derailed train, tornado, etc and I'd run...


I do know some will make it through this choke-point and so I am optimistic and trying to be active in that direction so my kids will survive.

[Heineken]

I "tipped" when I turned 50 (two years ago). I did not expect that that number would have the profound effect on me that it did.

On that birthday I tipped onto my personal downslope.

I see clearly, now, how surplus I am, and how near to the horizon.

The broader events that are in motion interact synergistically with my age to produce the blackest of clouds inside my head.

Because I know that, even if I have the means and knowledge to "prepare," I won't have the strength.

Also, that preparation is likely to be futile in any case.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'I')'ve tipped. There are too many problems, developing and in place, for any population or government, even if they had the will, to deal with in a timely manner.
For the most part, humans react, they do not look ahead and plan for contigencies.
Unless a deed to a fully set-up isolated farm drops out of the sky, we will have to make our stand where we live now.
I still think that we have about 2-4 years before chaos rules each day.
My opinion will be completely confirmed by any number of things happening: constant shortages-food, gas, employment; when the MSM divides it time between bad news and very bad news (and some perky idiot is given a show about how to roast that squirrel and what sauce to serve with it, etc); when beggars or gangs come to your house to beg or steal; when you have to make an appointment to food shop; schools shut down because they can't pay the staff or fuel the busses; there is a waiting list for plywood for people who want to board up their windows from the inside for (very little) extra protection; the Internet is shut down for the common consumer or only available at certain times during the week; martial law is imposed; etc, etc, etc.
We still have time to prep, but not all that much.
Time is the most precious commodity-it cannot be replaced.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'I')'ve tipped....

[Heineken]

Pops, some of your posts remind me of the "soma" people take in the novel "Brave New World." Sort of a calmness pill.

Bear in mind that most Americans aren't settled down on farms. They're huddled in angst in their overbuilt, heavily mortgaged suburban shacks on tiny lots, totally dependent on TWAWKI.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I') "tipped" when I turned 50 (two years ago). I did not expect that that number would have the profound effect on me that it did.

On that birthday I tipped onto my personal downslope.

I see clearly, now, how surplus I am, and how near to the horizon.

The broader events that are in motion interact synergistically with my age to produce the blackest of clouds inside my head.

Because I know that, even if I have the means and knowledge to "prepare," I won't have the strength.

Also, that preparation is likely to be futile in any case.