My husband is Canadian, I am American.
I am forced to come back to Texas, leaving all my preps and property in BC.
It's pointless to mourn what I've lost, I need to kick it into high gear with new preps.
I don't even know where to start. I'm back home in the Houston area and all I can think is that I want to get the hell out of here now.
I was doing rural/small town preps in BC. Now I need urban preps.
Oh my God. Now what?
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My marriage is over. Divorce on the brink of Peak Oil.
My marriage is over. Divorce on the brink of Peak Oil.
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by Pops » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 00:28:44
Sorry Wed (guess I shouldn't call you wed huh? 
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Take a little while and recoup, we are still shuffling deck chairs.
The scuffle will still be here when you get settled.
You have a job and place and stuff?
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Take a little while and recoup, we are still shuffling deck chairs.
The scuffle will still be here when you get settled.
You have a job and place and stuff?
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by Wednesday » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 00:38:01
Pops, you can call me Wed, just don't call me late for dinner.
I leased a place until the end of the year. Gas is 3.50 a gallon. My Texas vehicle is a 2002 Ford Windstar. I'm freaking out.
That guy didn't do a damn thing to help me prepare and now I have had to leave it all behind.
For the record, PO had nothing to do with the divorce. That was all us.
I leased a place until the end of the year. Gas is 3.50 a gallon. My Texas vehicle is a 2002 Ford Windstar. I'm freaking out.
That guy didn't do a damn thing to help me prepare and now I have had to leave it all behind.
For the record, PO had nothing to do with the divorce. That was all us.
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by evilgenius » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:02:23
First, drop the windstar and get something that gets over 30-35 mpg. Texas simply has too much distance. I am back in Denver and trying to find work. It is real hell. There are so many applicants for every job that I am lost as an older (44 yrs) person. They don't want me. They want someone that will work for free. Find ways to conserve. Pay attention to cooking. Examine your routines. Don't buy silver or gold until it reaches a bottom at around $575-$650. See if you can get any plants growing. Tomatoes are okay, but I would go for things that are easier to store for a duration. See if you can get a corner on what people will trade what you will want or need for. Buy ten pounds of rice now!
When it comes down to it, the people will always shout, "Free Barabbas." They love Barabbas. He's one of them. He has the same dreams. He does what they wish they could do. That other guy is more removed, more inscrutable. He makes them think. "Crucify him."
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by Pops » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:11:15
Glad you have a place Wed, even if it is one that smells like Houston!
Do you have folks there, a job?
Do you have folks there, a job?
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by KillTheHumans » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:16:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'M')y husband is Canadian, I am American.
I am forced to come back to Texas, leaving all my preps and property in BC.
Oh my God. Now what?
I am forced to come back to Texas, leaving all my preps and property in BC.
Oh my God. Now what?
Don't you get dual citizenship or something for marrying a Canadian? I think BC is a great place to hide out, couldn't you have just like "disappeared" into the nearest wilderness with your stuff? What are the Canadians going to do if they decide they don't like you hiding out in the woods, deport you back to the US anyway? Nearly any place has to be better than Houston for trying to dodge incoming zombie hordes and such.
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by Pops » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:30:35
I'm thinking you have a great chance to reassess your situation. Stuff has changed some recently and a few less ties and some time for thought are great for coming up with the new or improved idea.
Anyway, take care of the immediate, then sit down and take a breath a beer or ice cream or whatever your poison.
You have 7 months to revise your plan. Take some time...
You're alright.
Anyway, take care of the immediate, then sit down and take a breath a beer or ice cream or whatever your poison.
You have 7 months to revise your plan. Take some time...
You're alright.
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by IanC » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:36:18
Wednesday,
I'm very sorry for your loss. Even when divorce is the right thing, it's hard in so many ways.
Maybe it's Ecovillage time. We need more PO aware people in the NW. I have some friends who just joined the Columbia Ecovillage here in Portland. It's just getting off the ground and you could help make it great. If you're really worried about preps, think about the benefits of having instant acreage and the support of a very present community.
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I'm very sorry for your loss. Even when divorce is the right thing, it's hard in so many ways.
Maybe it's Ecovillage time. We need more PO aware people in the NW. I have some friends who just joined the Columbia Ecovillage here in Portland. It's just getting off the ground and you could help make it great. If you're really worried about preps, think about the benefits of having instant acreage and the support of a very present community.
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by Wednesday » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:41:11
Canada is not an option.
I do have a job, but I am stuck with the stupid van for the time being. It was sitting in storage for the last few years while I was gone. It's in good shape and I can use it for a trade in on something else.
Both my folks are deceased. I have rice and basic rations. I even bought some Datrex bars like the Coast Guard uses, lol.
I leased a place on Galveston Island because I knew it was temporary and I figured it would be my last chance to see the beach before I dig in somewhere safe. I do not plan to stay here.
I have no debt. The van is mine. The divorce isn't final so I don't know how that will affect my finanaces. I have no children.
I'm thinking guns, cash stash and bug out bag?
I do have a job, but I am stuck with the stupid van for the time being. It was sitting in storage for the last few years while I was gone. It's in good shape and I can use it for a trade in on something else.
Both my folks are deceased. I have rice and basic rations. I even bought some Datrex bars like the Coast Guard uses, lol.
I leased a place on Galveston Island because I knew it was temporary and I figured it would be my last chance to see the beach before I dig in somewhere safe. I do not plan to stay here.
I have no debt. The van is mine. The divorce isn't final so I don't know how that will affect my finanaces. I have no children.
I'm thinking guns, cash stash and bug out bag?
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by TWilliam » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:52:20
If motorized transport remains a necessity at least in the short term, maybe a scooter or small motorcycle? Granted, they're pretty useless for hauling anything, but if your main need is commuting, they get awesome mileage, and I should think that selling the Windstar would give you more than enough cash to get one and have a fair chunk left over to kickstart your new preps...
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by Tyler_JC » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:54:00
Before we start stockpiling the ammunition...what do you do for a living?
What is your education, work experience?
If you have solid career prospects, I don't think heading for the hills is your best option right now.
Can you pack up and move elsewhere (Denver, Philly, Seattle, Chicago, anywhere but Texas) when the lease expires and find a new job?
What is your education, work experience?
If you have solid career prospects, I don't think heading for the hills is your best option right now.
Can you pack up and move elsewhere (Denver, Philly, Seattle, Chicago, anywhere but Texas) when the lease expires and find a new job?
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Re: My marriage is over. Divorce on the brink of Peak Oil.
by Pops » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 02:17:34
You have a job and a place and a vehicle, that's great.
Take a little time to settle and regroup, the High-Stress Diet sucks the juice out and you need to have your wits to decide your plans but you have time.
In the meanwhile get together a FEMA-type 72hr kit and you'll feel better:
http://peakoil.com/downcat4.html
Then download the Food Storage FAQ and do a little more:
http://peakoil.com/downcat2.html
Mostly, take some time and say hi to the neighbors, walk the beach, smell the ocean and clear the brain.
You'll be OK.
Take a little time to settle and regroup, the High-Stress Diet sucks the juice out and you need to have your wits to decide your plans but you have time.
In the meanwhile get together a FEMA-type 72hr kit and you'll feel better:
http://peakoil.com/downcat4.html
Then download the Food Storage FAQ and do a little more:
http://peakoil.com/downcat2.html
Mostly, take some time and say hi to the neighbors, walk the beach, smell the ocean and clear the brain.
You'll be OK.
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by Wednesday » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 02:27:28
At this moment I am earning an income as a hairdresser. I make pretty decent money. My license will allow me to work anywhere in the state and most states will allow reciprocity.
I have a half-baked idea to get some medical certifications. Ultrasound tech, maybe. Surgical assistant maybe. Dunno.
I don't have much education otherwise, I never completed college and I studied anthropology anyway, so it wouldnt have done much good.
I make a decent income as a hairdresser, but when TSHTF I doubt people will value vanity over hunger.
I have thought about getting a small motorcycle. A 250cc or something. I am not a very large or strong person and couldnt handle a big bike. Maybe a Honda Rebel or something with some resale value. If I do that, I'm not sure I want to give up the van.
I can sleep in the van if I have to hit the road, I could use it as shelter. Can't do that on a bike.
I need at the very least a shotgun, I think.
One of the things my husband and I would argue about was his procrastination and inability to sponsor me in Canada. It was a holy mess. Don't cry for me there, I am glad to get out of this marriage. Not happy at all about leaving Canada for Texas.
I keep hearing this wee voice in my brain "Girl, you are on the edge of the Chihuahuan Desert! Run!"
No debt, No kids, No parents, No real assets, No real education.
I guess it could be a lot worse. For some reason Pops saying I'm all right makes me feel better.
I have a half-baked idea to get some medical certifications. Ultrasound tech, maybe. Surgical assistant maybe. Dunno.
I don't have much education otherwise, I never completed college and I studied anthropology anyway, so it wouldnt have done much good.
I make a decent income as a hairdresser, but when TSHTF I doubt people will value vanity over hunger.
I have thought about getting a small motorcycle. A 250cc or something. I am not a very large or strong person and couldnt handle a big bike. Maybe a Honda Rebel or something with some resale value. If I do that, I'm not sure I want to give up the van.
I can sleep in the van if I have to hit the road, I could use it as shelter. Can't do that on a bike.
I need at the very least a shotgun, I think.
One of the things my husband and I would argue about was his procrastination and inability to sponsor me in Canada. It was a holy mess. Don't cry for me there, I am glad to get out of this marriage. Not happy at all about leaving Canada for Texas.
I keep hearing this wee voice in my brain "Girl, you are on the edge of the Chihuahuan Desert! Run!"
No debt, No kids, No parents, No real assets, No real education.
I guess it could be a lot worse. For some reason Pops saying I'm all right makes me feel better.
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by Wednesday » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 02:37:18
Thanks for the links, Pops. Ill take the info and make my own kits.
I'm going to get some sleep, I'll be back tomorrow to think some more.
Thank you everyone. It's good to have this community here.
Thanks Pops. Thanks Aaron.
I'm going to get some sleep, I'll be back tomorrow to think some more.
Thank you everyone. It's good to have this community here.
Thanks Pops. Thanks Aaron.
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by tecumseh » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 02:47:56
Wednesday, you sound like Bonnie. I'll be your Clyde. We can go camping in the National Forest near Canada and get work in the Fall (or build a hogan). Seriously, you seem cool. Too bad things didn't work out in BC. Good luck to you. Listen to Pops.
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by Cashmere » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 07:57:56
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are so many applicants for every job that I am lost as an older (44 yrs) person. They don't want me. They want someone that will work for free.
This is not directed at you, but . . .
maybe they want someone who doesn't feel he's entitled to 50k a year and benes for sitting in a cube typing on the Internet 4 hours a day.
Near as I can tell, the above paragraph describes a lot of the U.S. work force.
I remember an engineer I knew who transitioned into an advisory role in my company.
The guy was unbelievable.
He'd always get there early, but I figured out eventually that was just a scam to get everyone thinking he was a hard worker.
He'd then piss away an hour for coffee.
Then an hour on some other thing.
Do a little work.
And then early lunch, because, you know, he got in early.
Sneak out at 4 after having done 2 hours work.
I always thought to myself, "wouldn't it just have been easier to do the work?"
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by jlw61 » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 08:37:34
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'C')anada is not an option.
I do have a job, but I am stuck with the stupid van for the time being. It was sitting in storage for the last few years while I was gone. It's in good shape and I can use it for a trade in on something else.
Both my folks are deceased. I have rice and basic rations. I even bought some Datrex bars like the Coast Guard uses, lol.
I leased a place on Galveston Island because I knew it was temporary and I figured it would be my last chance to see the beach before I dig in somewhere safe. I do not plan to stay here.
I have no debt. The van is mine. The divorce isn't final so I don't know how that will affect my finanaces. I have no children.
I'm thinking guns, cash stash and bug out bag?
I do have a job, but I am stuck with the stupid van for the time being. It was sitting in storage for the last few years while I was gone. It's in good shape and I can use it for a trade in on something else.
Both my folks are deceased. I have rice and basic rations. I even bought some Datrex bars like the Coast Guard uses, lol.
I leased a place on Galveston Island because I knew it was temporary and I figured it would be my last chance to see the beach before I dig in somewhere safe. I do not plan to stay here.
I have no debt. The van is mine. The divorce isn't final so I don't know how that will affect my finanaces. I have no children.
I'm thinking guns, cash stash and bug out bag?
Someone with your obvious brains and wit needs to follow Pops advice. Sit down, breath, take it easy for a short while. Buy some staples, that's a no brainer and may help you settle down a little. Buy some chocholate for self medication. Clear your head, first. You won't do yourself any good until you've gotten your head clear.
You are in a unpleasant situation, but it's way better than being in a post PO world with someone you can't live with.
Don't worry about the van unless you have to run around a lot or you are still making payments on it. It's not the MPG as much as how much you use it.
My advice is to grab a months worth of staples, a simple bug out bag, and (this is an assumption, forgive me if I'm wrong) learn about guns. Find a local indoor range and rent a pistol for an hour if you know how to use one, or take a class if you don't. Then practice once a week to get comfortable. You'll be surprised how good this can make you feel. A nice 5 shot .38 special or small 9mm can be very empowering. Don't forget to use good ear protection (often provided at the range).
You've got time, use it. The S hasn't hit the fan and I'm one who believes the strong evidence abounds to support that we still have time, perhaps 4 or more years. Simplify your life, do some basics and just get through this year.
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Re: My marriage is over. Divorce on the brink of Peak Oil.
by jlw61 » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 08:56:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'A')t this moment I am earning an income as a hairdresser. I make pretty decent money. My license will allow me to work anywhere in the state and most states will allow reciprocity.
I have a half-baked idea to get some medical certifications. Ultrasound tech, maybe. Surgical assistant maybe. Dunno.
I have a half-baked idea to get some medical certifications. Ultrasound tech, maybe. Surgical assistant maybe. Dunno.
Extra education is always smart and medical education can't be anything but good.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') make a decent income as a hairdresser, but when TSHTF I doubt people will value vanity over hunger.
You'd be surprised what people value.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have thought about getting a small motorcycle. A 250cc or something. I am not a very large or strong person and couldn't handle a big bike. Maybe a Honda Rebel or something with some resale value. If I do that, I'm not sure I want to give up the van.
Awesome bike, I've got an '86 rebel 450 and it runs great. The 250 will be perfect for you. Get a used one with saddlebags and a sissy bar. Get one of those really simple bumper hitch motorcycle carriers.
Like this one. Used if you can find it.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') need at the very least a shotgun, I think.
Think pistol, really. If I had to have only one weapon for protection, it would be a pistol. You can easily carry it with you wherever you go and you never have to put it down when you need to do something with your hands. And a shotgun is a difficult bed companion.
While a shotgun does scare the hell out of most people, you don't want to have to use it, if/when the time comes, you have to be miles in front of everyone, not arguing with them. The best defense is not getting into trouble.
Misquoting a line from one of my favorite movies: "If you see trouble, do what the rest of us do... Run your ass off."
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ne of the things my husband and I would argue about was his procrastination and inability to sponsor me in Canada. It was a holy mess. Don't cry for me there, I am glad to get out of this marriage. Not happy at all about leaving Canada for Texas.
I keep hearing this wee voice in my brain "Girl, you are on the edge of the Chihuahuan Desert! Run!"
