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Fuel economy going up
Re: Fuel economy going up
by Cashmere » Wed 23 Apr 2008, 16:18:12
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') do make over 5 figures (job, investments, etc...), I have a mortgage on my house but it will be paid off in 2 years (I put over 67% downpayment on my house), I have no other debt, I have high 5 figures in savings, I have low 5 figures in retirement savings (401K), and co-own 300 acres of ranch land in New Mexico with parents and brother/sister in-law.
Ok, you pass the Cashmere "not an idiot" test - well done.
(I overlooked your defense of Cramer).
Here's a going - forward thought . . .
Adding a car without adding a driver does not add much to your total yearly insurance cost - the difference could literally be 100 bucks.
If you get a car that gets high mileage for those off days when you don't bag an elk, you could pocket a lot of money.
On the other hand, if you're one of these folks who say, "it's safer driving in an SUV", then never mind.
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Re: Fuel economy going up
by joeltrout » Wed 23 Apr 2008, 17:01:41
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Adding a car without adding a driver does not add much to your total yearly insurance cost - the difference could literally be 100 bucks.
If you get a car that gets high mileage for those off days when you don't bag an elk, you could pocket a lot of money.
On the other hand, if you're one of these folks who say, "it's safer driving in an SUV", then never mind.
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Adding a car without adding a driver does not add much to your total yearly insurance cost - the difference could literally be 100 bucks.
If you get a car that gets high mileage for those off days when you don't bag an elk, you could pocket a lot of money.
On the other hand, if you're one of these folks who say, "it's safer driving in an SUV", then never mind.
Most of the time a SUV is safer because most of my driving is done on surface-streets here in Los Angeles which means speeds of less than 55 mph. However I do realize that on the freeways and highways SUVs are less safe. I rolled a GMC Yukon my freshman year of college.
I agree buying a car would save money and that adds up over the long-term. However, I have never owned anything smaller than a full-size pickup or full-size SUV. I am not one of those people who put a 6 inch lift-kit or mud tires on my vehicles or fancy rims. I just like being able to haul stuff like dry-wall, deer/elk, or people when we go on roadtrips or weekend adventures.
One thing that really bugs me is people who do drive large vehicles and complain about gas prices. You would not believe how many Hummers, Excursions, 4-door pickups, SUVs, etc...are around the Los Angeles area.
People choose bad hobbies like motorcycle riding. Off-road motorcycles are extremly popular for Los Angeles residences because of the great riding areas just outside of Los Angeles. The problem is they need a large vehicle to haul their motorcylce trailer. Many have those travel trailers that you can put motorcycles inside and sleep in at night. They drive 2 hours to get out of Los Angeles then spend the weekend driving motorcycles all over the desert then drive 2 hours back into Los Angeles stuck in traffic the whole time. Many are lucky if they average 8 mpg during their trip.
I consider that a costly hobby. Same thing with motorboats/jetskis.
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Re: Fuel economy going up
by lateStarter » Wed 23 Apr 2008, 17:23:06
Hey Joel,
The fact that you live in LA, drive an SUV, and are apparently proud of it, says it all. You might want to consider upgrading to the bullet-proof model of whatever you are currently driving. Oh, sorry that is only available to people like Paris Hilton.
And what does 'over 5 figures' mean? 112,000 per year? 998,000 per year? I get confused with your posts... Sometimes it sounds like you know what you are talking about, but most of the the time you sound like an asshole!
This time, I am not going to apologize!
The fact that you live in LA, drive an SUV, and are apparently proud of it, says it all. You might want to consider upgrading to the bullet-proof model of whatever you are currently driving. Oh, sorry that is only available to people like Paris Hilton.
And what does 'over 5 figures' mean? 112,000 per year? 998,000 per year? I get confused with your posts... Sometimes it sounds like you know what you are talking about, but most of the the time you sound like an asshole!
This time, I am not going to apologize!
We have been brought into the present condition in which we are unable neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them. - Livy
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Re: Fuel economy going up
by joeltrout » Wed 23 Apr 2008, 17:33:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', 'H')ey Joel,
The fact that you live in LA, drive an SUV, and are apparently proud of it, says it all. You might want to consider upgrading to the bullet-proof model of whatever you are currently driving. Oh, sorry that is only available to people like Paris Hilton.
And what does 'over 5 figures' mean? 112,000 per year? 998,000 per year? I get confused with your posts... Sometimes it sounds like you know what you are talking about, but most of the the time you sound like an asshole!
This time, I am not going to apologize!
The fact that you live in LA, drive an SUV, and are apparently proud of it, says it all. You might want to consider upgrading to the bullet-proof model of whatever you are currently driving. Oh, sorry that is only available to people like Paris Hilton.
And what does 'over 5 figures' mean? 112,000 per year? 998,000 per year? I get confused with your posts... Sometimes it sounds like you know what you are talking about, but most of the the time you sound like an asshole!
This time, I am not going to apologize!
1st: I hope I didn't come off as being proud of driving an SUV. I was just communicating that I do drive an SUV and hope I can continue that for as long as possible. It is my preferred means of travel and I encourage as many people to downsize as possible. If people can afford an SUV then great but if they cannot then they shouldn't drive one.
2nd: I am not going to disclose my exact yearly income. Cashmere asked me if I make over 5 figures and I answered correctly. It should not matter to you if that is $100,000 or $100,000,000. I believe the point of Cashmere's question was to see if I actually can afford to drive an SUV at $6 a gallon. I believe I can.
3rd: I don't intend to come off wrong. I was just answering the questions and giving my opinions on other thoughts. Many people complain about high gas prices but are not willing to conserve gas by driving less or driving more fuel efficient vehicles.
4th: I have never stated I know everything in the world. If I say something wrong please correct me.
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Re: Fuel economy going up
by joeltrout » Wed 23 Apr 2008, 19:15:23
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', ' ')You might want to consider upgrading to the bullet-proof model of whatever you are currently driving. Oh, sorry that is only available to people like Paris Hilton.
Actually anyone can get their vehicle bullet proof. Check out these companies.
CAV
Armormax
TAC
Armored Car Co.
etc... Many very successful business people have armored vehicles especially in countries like Mexico in which kidnapping and ransoms are common.
Actually you can get a custom armored car for less than $200,000. However I would not recommend it for fuel efficiency.
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