[mattduke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nder new regulations and procedures announced to take effect over the next month, citizens of the USA will, for the first time, be required to obtain USA government permission in order to return home to their own country from abroad -- from anywhere else in the world, by air or sea or land.

As I've noted previously, the so-called International APIS final rules effective 19 February 2008 will require all travellers to, from, or via the USA by air to obtain two forms of government permission to travel: (1) a passport, and (2) a "cleared" message from the DHS authorizing the airline to allow the specific person to board the specific flight or ship.

[eXpat]

You don't want to leave just when things are getting interesting, don't you?

[I_Like_Plants]

We might very well want to leave when things are getting interesting, they just don't seem to want us back after we've been "polluted" by contact with Un-Americans.

And that's fine with me, the US is a great place to be rich, most anywhere else is better if you're poor.

[lateStarter]

Not planning on coming back, but I may need to if my son gets married this Spring. I keep having this nightmare about returning for the wedding ceremony and somehow getting 'stuck' in the country because of some 'event'. Makes me shudder...

[eXpat]

Foreigners to be fingerprinted at the airports link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he U.S. government today will order commercial airlines and cruise lines to prepare to collect digital fingerprints of all foreigners before they depart the country under a security initiative that the industry has condemned as costly and burdensome.

The proposal does not say where airlines must collect fingerprints -- at airport check-in counters, departure gates or kiosks somewhere in between. But the government estimates the undertaking will cost airlines $2.3 billion over 10 years, a U.S. homeland security official said.

The overall economic impact on companies, passengers and the government is expected to exceed $3.5 billion, industry lobbyists said, at a time when carriers are struggling with safety concerns, high fuel costs and passenger complaints.
...
Doug Lavin, regional vice president for the International Air Transport Association, which represents major U.S. and international carriers, said the government, not airlines, should collect fingerprints. "This is ludicrous," Lavin said. "We can't afford anything in the billions to support a program that should be a government program."

Fingerprinting an estimated 33 million departing foreign passengers a year will result in "delayed departures, missed connections here and around the world," Lavin said.

[jasonraymondson]

Inching us closer to 1984 everyday. God Bless America

[BigTex]

Anyone who doesn't have a Passport, get one now while you're not in a hurry.

It's easy to do, and it's good to have around. If nothing else, it's a good second form of identification.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'A')nyone who doesn't have a Passport, get one now while you're not in a hurry.

It's easy to do, and it's good to have around. If nothing else, it's a good second form of identification.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'A')nyone who doesn't have a Passport, get one now while you're not in a hurry.

It's easy to do, and it's good to have around. If nothing else, it's a good second form of identification.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'A')nyone who doesn't have a Passport, get one now while you're not in a hurry.

It's easy to do, and it's good to have around. If nothing else, it's a good second form of identification.

[gampy]

Your paperz are notz in ourder, please come witz us.

[dukey]

hopefully this will help catch al ciadah

[FreakOil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', 'N')ot planning on coming back, but I may need to if my son gets married this Spring. I keep having this nightmare about returning for the wedding ceremony and somehow getting 'stuck' in the country because of some 'event'. Makes me shudder...

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'N')ot very friendly with turists...

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nder new regulations and procedures announced to take effect over the next month, citizens of the USA will, for the first time, be required to obtain USA government permission in order to return home to their own country from abroad -- from anywhere else in the world, by air or sea or land.

As I've noted previously, the so-called International APIS final rules effective 19 February 2008 will require all travellers to, from, or via the USA by air to obtain two forms of government permission to travel: (1) a passport, and (2) a "cleared" message from the DHS authorizing the airline to allow the specific person to board the specific flight or ship.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') was talking to the rest of the group who might like to have a tad more international mobility if they ever wanted it on short notice.

[HEADER_RACK]

Not just for travel but for work to. In the gulf of mexico alot of our offshore people have to get a new card to travel to offshore rigs. It's called a T.W.I.C. card. Something worker identification card. Cost about $134.00

[Denny]

Maybe the strangest aspect of this is getting fingerprints from foreign nationals upon departing the U.S.A. Chertoff does not explain how this is of use.

Its pretty fuzzy logic going on there, and it will do nothing to prevent terrorists.

In fact, we all need to remember that the 9/11 terrorists were in the U.S. legally. And, even background checks would have shown these guys to have upright people. No criminal records. Solid working credentials.

Can this type of thing be done just by administrative fiat, with no legislative approvals?

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HEADER_RACK', 'N')ot just for travel but for work to. In the gulf of mexico alot of our offshore people have to get a new card to travel to offshore rigs. It's called a T.W.I.C. card. Something worker identification card. Cost about $134.00

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I')'ll bet a small sum that the penalty to a US citizen for reentering the US without US government permission is harsher than that leveled against a Mexican caught sneaking across the border.