[seahorse]

Just keep in mind that as we log the redwoods and other old growth forests, at the same time we discuss the possibility of buldozing unsold houses to get rid of excess inventory. Now, how much sense does that make? At least the criminals do us all a favor by stealing the copper and other stuff and putting it back on the market. Why not the lumber? Glass? blah blah blah.

[Aaron]

Pfft... amateurs.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'U')p until two days ago, the lot next to my office was a really beautiful spot. It had three huge majestic elm trees.

[holmes]

It is a suicidal culture. Yes amatuers. Work in forestry and timber harvesting and observe the carnage hidden deep within the timberlands. Far worse away from prying eyes.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I') guess I can't figure out why the trees surely cleared from the land your office sits on were any less dear than the ones just cleared from the lot out your window?

[GoghGoner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'U')p until two days ago, the lot next to my office was a really beautiful spot. It had three huge majestic elm trees.

[MrBean]

This just happened in a nearby forest, by bunch of city bureaucrats and their hired hands clearing out all old but healthy trees. Not because of any (declared) commercial purpose, but in the name or "taking care of forest"(sic !!!) that is public forest inside the city and designated for recreational purposes!!!

Taking care indeed; there can be no other explanation to this insane cruelty but some extremely twisted oedepalian thirst for rape and murder, because aren't we, all of us humans, children of the forest?

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', '
')We make connections with trees. How? Nobody knows that, but if you look at the research, you will find it to be true. No human really understands the fabric of the universe.

Maybe I'm kooky but if I run for quite a long time and the exhaustion sets in to the very marrow of my bone then I sense the connection with the trees.


Tree Studies

My favorite study of all-time is when they found that trees reduce violence. No wonder smallboxgirl wants us all to die.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBean', 'v')ery probably trees are spiritually more evolved than us humans.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') wasn't the one the cleared the ground to build this house, but is it really any different?

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBean', 'W')hat is the nature of our connection with trees, especially old and wise trees? Perhaps trees that are also sentient and feeling beings, as they have very little else to do, stay in constant meditation and very regularly as they age become enlightened; perhaps and very probably trees are spiritually more evolved than us humans.

[Ludi]

"When in the springtime of the year
When the trees are crowned with leaves
When the ash and oak, and the birch and yew
Are dressed in ribbons fair

When owls call the breathless moon
In the blue veil of the night
The shadows of the trees appear
Amidst the lantern light

We've been rambling all the night
And some time of this day
Now returning back again
we bring a garland gay

Who will go down to those shady groves
And summon the shadows there
And tie a ribbon on those sheltering arms
In the springtime of the year

The songs of birds seem to fill the wood
That when the fiddler plays
All their voices can be heard
Long past their woodland days

We've been rambling all the night
And some time of this day
Now returning back again
we bring a garland gay

And so they linked their hands and danced
Round in circles and in rows
And so the journey of the night descends
When all the shades are gone

A garland gay we bring you here
And at your door we stand
It is a sprout well budded out
The work of Our Lord's hand

We've been rambling all the night
And some time of this day
Now returning back again
we bring a garland gay"

The Mummers Dance by Loreena McKennitt

[DomusAlbion]

I love Loreena McKennitt's music. She has that one traditional tune from Ireland about an old growth forest "Bonny Portmore". A lament by an Irish lord over the foolishness of selling the forest to the English. Foolishness indeed.

She's a little crazy for trees not unlike SPG. I wonder SPG, do you have a druidic influence like Loreena?

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')The sacrificial tree is the central feature of the Lakota sundance as well. The people wrap is with bits of cloth and tobacco that hold their prayers. Then it sacrifices it's life while the dancers sacrifice their flesh tied to it's branches. The sundance tree is right there with the pipe as one of the most sacred things in the Lakota religion.

[GoghGoner]

Ludi,

Never heard of her. I like the music.

Video

[MrBean]

Thanks for the song, Ludi and GG.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I')'m really pretty shocked by your reaction to this Pops. How old are you? And you've never developed a relationship with a tree?

[PenultimateManStanding]

Tree lyrics, that's nice. Our really distant ancestors lived in trees and never came down. We had everything we needed up there and were safe from most predators. When I was a kid, we spent half our time climbing in trees, making forts or playing tag in the sumacs overhanging a pond with poliwogs swimming through it.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '"')Bonny Portmore".

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')But perhaps when you sit down - if you aren't already, you might come up with a song for the trees that sacraficed for your chair.