[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I don't particularly enjoy sharing the road with teenagers, welfare-suckers, retirees in their 80s-90s , addicts, owners of 100yo vehicles or mentally-disabled people.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I don't particularly enjoy sharing the road with teenagers, welfare-suckers, retirees in their 80s-90s , addicts, owners of 100yo vehicles or mentally-disabled people.

[Benzin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I') don't particularly enjoy sharing the road with teenagers, welfare-suckers, retirees in their 80s-90s , addicts, owners of 100yo vehicles or mentally-disabled people.

[Narz]

Lets all get huger and huger cars cause we're afraid of dying. Brilliant!

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'L')ets all get huger and huger cars cause we're afraid of dying. Brilliant!

[BigTex]

What vehicle is the Pilot replacing?

[raisinbran]

When the depression hits, bikes might be the only feasible solution to save suburbia.

Bikes and body armor, of course.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'W')hat vehicle is the Pilot replacing?

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('raisinbran', 'W')hen the depression hits, bikes might be the only feasible solution to save suburbia.
Bikes and body armor, of course.

[hubbertspeak7777777]

Honda sucks.

[RedStateGreen]

We love Hondas, probably bought 15 of them over the years. I have a CR-V, it's great. I wish it got a bit better gas mileage but if I'm careful I can get 25-26 mpg.

[Pretorian]

I've heard you have to shoot Honda to get rid of it. Seems true in my expierence

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'H')onda sucks.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'L')ets all get huger and huger cars cause we're afraid of dying. Brilliant!

[timmac]

Surly employess of these plants making these large suv's and trucks had to see this coming,, why is our big 3 auto makers still leaning on the profits from big suv's and trucks sells when they should focus on more mid size high mpg trucks and autos, why is Japan so far ahead of the big 3 in mpg's,, why are we so far behind the ball on this,,, I do think we are in 4th or 5th place when it comes to 35 mpg or better,, Toyoto/Honda/VW all have many models that get better than 35 mpg,, but a net search found 2 or 3 total from GM/Ford/Mopar that got better than 35 mpg's,, if they don't make changes fast they will all be in chapter 13 bankruptcy very soon along with the airline compaines....

[Denny]

I am wondering if it will be different this time for the pickup truck plants. Back in the 70's, I felt some pain, as our GM truck plant went down to one shift and cut the production rate as well, from 34 to 31 trucks per hour. But, within a few months we were humming along again. A couple of years later, the line rate went up to 36 and then 40 and then 45 trucks per hour. Those were great times, with mucho overtime to boot. Back then, GM had seven plants producing the bread and butter C/K pickup series.

But, it seems different today. At least GM seems to give lots of warning, they used to announce a shift drop or a line speed cut with just two or three weeks notice, now its many months.

I am wondering if I'll ever see the small pension coming my way in a few years from those years with GM. I even had a report from the Ontario government which claims the GM pension plan is not properly funded right now. It doesn't look like they'll be topping it up anytime soon.

[usncom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'S')urly employess of these plants making these large suv's and trucks had to see this coming,, why is our big 3 auto makers still leaning on the profits from big suv's and trucks sells when they should focus on more mid size high mpg trucks and autos, why is Japan so far ahead of the big 3 in mpg's,, why are we so far behind the ball on this,,, I do think we are in 4th or 5th place when it comes to 35 mpg or better,, Toyoto/Honda/VW all have many models that get better than 35 mpg,, but a net search found 2 or 3 total from GM/Ford/Mopar that got better than 35 mpg's,, if they don't make changes fast they will all be in chapter 13 bankruptcy very soon along with the airline compaines....

[vision-master]

So, are you saying all those foreign car manufactures have escaped pension plans, good wages and healthcare for labor?

Seems to me, 1st off they get way better vacation time and at least cheaper and as good health care.

What kind of workers does GM plan on attracting? Monkeys or what.

[usncom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'S')o, are you saying all those foreign car manufactures have escaped pension plans, good wages and healthcare for labor?
Seems to me, 1st off they get way better vacation time and at least cheaper and as good health care.
What kind of workers does GM plan on attracting? Monkeys or what.

[drew]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'S')o, are you saying all those foreign car manufactures have escaped pension plans, good wages and healthcare for labor?
Seems to me, 1st off they get way better vacation time and at least cheaper and as good health care.
What kind of workers does GM plan on attracting? Monkeys or what.