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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby Pops » Wed 02 Apr 2008, 16:28:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'H')owever, what would something like that cost today and how many pounds would you expect and which cuts would be included?


Heck if I know Tex.

I am just starting to explore other avenues, grass fed beef, cut, wrapped and shipped from a USDA inspected packer is one, growing replacement dairy heifers another.

Ethanol is killing me - and I ain't just talking about my liver!
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby jboogy » Wed 02 Apr 2008, 20:35:33

Tex, you would probably want to buy a steer at auction, take him to the butcher and tell him what cuts you want, butchering will run you about .50 a pound, with an approx. 50.00 kill fee, you'll need a couple freezers. current prices are available on the internet and your prices will be per 100 lbs. , last I checked a 800 lb. steer was in the range of 85.00 per 100 lbs., but this was a while ago and I may be mixing it up with other cow prices. Try this link

http://www.lmic.info/priprod/pandp.html
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby leal » Wed 02 Apr 2008, 20:44:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'G')oat is not on my list, nor is yak, ostrich, monkey brains, dog, nor are such unpalatable entrees as beef sweetbreads, tongue, mountain oysters, pancreas, or spleen.

You should try ostrich, It is quite good actually.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby jboogy » Thu 03 Apr 2008, 00:17:46

Wild piggy-wiggy, yummy and free, no season or limit down here. My youngin' got this bad girl.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 03 Apr 2008, 03:30:17

Chinchulines anyone? its a thin intestine of a calf, ideally of one who had never ate anything but milk. This stuff is boiled for an hour or so and then grilled on argentinian parilla. DAMN ITS SO GOOD!

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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 03 Apr 2008, 19:43:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'H')owever, what would something like that cost today and how many pounds would you expect and which cuts would be included?


Heck if I know Tex.

I am just starting to explore other avenues, grass fed beef, cut, wrapped and shipped from a USDA inspected packer is one, growing replacement dairy heifers another.



It's kind of hard to find out what is truly organic from the FDA. Everything I have learned has been from consumers of organic beef.

My aim is to find someone in North Texas who already has the marketing and logistics in place, then be one of their suppliers. I check out one such operation that Shanny pointed out. They were selling organic ribeyes at $10 a pound and only if you bought in bulk!

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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 03 Apr 2008, 20:04:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')http://www.texasgrassfed.com/


From their website:

Basic Variety Pack - $99 -
1 - 3 lb Roast (Chuck, Pikes Peak, Sirloin Tip, etc.- our choice)

2 - Steaks (1" New York Strips, Ribeyes or Sirloin Steaks- our choice)

1 - 1 lb Pkg. Stew Meat

1 - 1 lb Pkg. Tenderized Cutlets (4 cutlets)

5 - 1 lb pkgs. Ground Beef

This is what I'm talking about! I want to meet and feed the person ready to drop $99(plus $24 shipping!) for 12 pounds of sirloin and chuck.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 03 Apr 2008, 22:35:19

Mmmmm ground sloth....
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 03 Apr 2008, 23:15:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'N')ow regarding ecologic damage The livestock we eat today were buffalo, elk, mastodon


i wonder how fresh was that one
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 22:01:25

A cow is...

Disgusting. A horribly ugly animal, distended, unnatural. Filthy, dirty, obscene, helpless, and idiotic.

You are what you eat.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby jboogy » Mon 07 Apr 2008, 23:16:23

Blis-whip wrote
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hats it like to do the wrong thing, the immoral thing, the evil thing?

It's tasty

Besides, I need to eat meat 'cause somebody once told me I was hypoglycemic and what I needed was meat in my diet.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby TWilliam » Tue 08 Apr 2008, 01:09:15

Humans are omnivores. We've been omnivores since we were the size of shrews. Get over it already...
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby threadbear » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 20:27:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'J')Boogy, There is a theory I read somewhere recently that BSE didn't actually come from sheep, it came from human remains, infected with CJD, dredged up with the remains of everything else that gets retrieved from the rivers, in India, processed into fertilizer, and bone meal. People have made cows sick, not other cows, nor sheep, originally anyway.

Here's an article from BBC.

The first cases of BSE or "mad cow disease" could have been caused by animal feed contaminated with human remains, says a controversial theory.

Some raw materials for fertiliser and feed imported from South Asia in the 60s and 70s contained human bones and soft tissue, the Lancet reports.

Bone collectors could have picked up the remains of corpses deposited in the Ganges river to sell for export.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4201072.stm


This isn't the first time I posted on Peak Oil forums about my agribusiness beef, and my worries about it. I've been concerned since I first started reading about it, about 10 years ago.

In the meantime something tragic has happened in my family. My own mother, who is 79 years of age, has been diagnosed with primary progressive aphasia, and one of the chief suspects, as to cause, according to the top neurologist in B.C., is CJD.

We are sparing her the horror of biopsies and suspending all further testing, as she is very scared and confused, and declining very fast.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 21:07:20

Threadbear, I'm so sorry about your mother.

My mother in law has CJD. She is 64. She was diagnosed by the Mayo Clinic in San Fran, and was on one of their experimental drugs. She was actually steady and improved a little, but then they took her off the drug (it destroys the liver) and she instantly got a lot worse. So she could go any day now.

We had the genetic testing done and thankfully it is not the familial kind, just "sporadic" as they call it.

Needless to say, my husband and I have sworn off beef after this. I can't even think about eating it after seeing her and wondering what the heck caused this.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby threadbear » Thu 05 Feb 2009, 23:21:49

So sorry to hear about your mother in law, Bliss. 64 years old? That's pretty young, still. My mother has had a fairly long and happy life for the most part, so that makes it a little easier to take. I read the stats and know she is VERY lucky to have made it this far. Her first symptoms were about a year and a half ago. We will know eventually, if it's a definitive diagnosis and also whether it's a type that is passed on. The doctors are very interested in her case and really want to study her more, but we won't allow it.
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 06 Feb 2009, 08:53:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'W')ild piggy-wiggy, yummy and free, no season or limit down here. My youngin' got this bad girl.
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I see your youngin believes in using enough gun. :)
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Re: Stop Eating Beef?

Unread postby deMolay » Fri 06 Feb 2009, 10:25:59

My grass fed Highland Beef is the best in the world. Why would I not eat it, it is healthier than vegetables that have been sprayed with oil by products.
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