[Micki]

Another video you should watch is Aaron Russo's America Freedom to Fascism.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ichael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell

[mkwin]

Two good books on the NWO perspective 'The Syndicate' and 'The Unseen hand'. It is an interesting ideas but it is mainly right wing paranoia.

[oliveoil]

Thanks for the links and advice to everyone, I have ordered "Web of deceit" as its up to date, published in 2007. I will also check out all the videos.

Its funny, three years ago, when I discovered peak oil, my world view came crashing down. Now having discovered this topic, I am almost going through the same swing-set of emotions, but to a lesser extent. There is also a bit of "Why am I not surprised..." that underlies them.

I did an economics degree which I never finished due to various reasons. But, while doing it I always suspected there was something not quite right there. Like an issue was being skirted around. But I cant say what it is... I should've paid more attention.

I wonder how accurate are the economic theories being taught in universities? I recently spoke to an American undergraduate in economics who assured me that a degree of debt was a good thing, yet did not realise that the US is 9 trillion $ in debt.

But this may be off topic in this forum

[Homesteader]

Anyone read "And The Truth Shall Set You Free" by David Eike?

[NWFla]

I'm not averse to Greider's "Secret's of the Temple"; considered a fluff piece by many. It's a "guy inside the 'system'"- kind of view. One which no matter how much he may deny the conspiratorial aspects of the system's nature, he just keeps seeming to confirm it time and again as he tries to guardedly unfold the tale. I've had that book since it came out in '87 and I keep it as yardstick of sorts.

Oliveoil, you need "Web of Debt" instead of "Web of Deceit". My favorite "pop" book (as opposed to academics) on the subject though I haven't read many or widely.

A few "Dummies" books on economics, banking and investments.
Eustace Mullins' "Secrets"
Murray Rothbard's Fed work.
Greider's book.
Griffin's book.
.pdf files of Sutton's work.

This is about the extent for me except for textbooks and roundabout works e.g. Stiglitz as an academic and Perkins or Estulin as an adventurer.

I too share the fascination with this as you do.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ichael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell

[oliveoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Oliveoil, you need "Web of Debt" instead of "Web of Deceit". My favorite "pop" book (as opposed to academics) on the subject though I haven't read many or widely.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ave you checked out Stewart Swerdlow?

[mmasters]

"Zeitgeist" and "Money Masters" are mandatory viewing for all newbies!

[killJOY]

"zeitgeist" is poo-poo ca-ca.

and I'm no believer, either.

[Polemic]

Add to that Alex Jones' filmography:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=a ... tesearch=#

[Bongoman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oliveoil', 'T')hanks for the links and advice to everyone, I have ordered "Web of deceit" as its up to date, published in 2007. I will also check out all the videos.

[snip]

I wonder how accurate are the economic theories being taught in universities? I recently spoke to an American undergraduate in economics who assured me that a degree of debt was a good thing, yet did not realise that the US is 9 trillion $ in debt.

But this may be off topic in this forum

[Bongoman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ave you checked out Stewart Swerdlow?

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bongoman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ave you checked out Stewart Swerdlow?

[Bongoman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ichael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bongoman', '
')The real pioneers in heavy research and much kudos and respect have to go to these folks:

Carroll Quigley:

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley (Hardcover - Jun 1975)

Anglo-American Establishment by Quigley Carroll (Paperback - Jun 1981)

EVOLUTION OF CIVILIZATIONS, THE by Carroll Quigley (Paperback - Aug 1, 1979)

[Bongoman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bongoman', '
')The real pioneers in heavy research and much kudos and respect have to go to these folks:

Carroll Quigley:

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley (Hardcover - Jun 1975)

Anglo-American Establishment by Quigley Carroll (Paperback - Jun 1981)

EVOLUTION OF CIVILIZATIONS, THE by Carroll Quigley (Paperback - Aug 1, 1979)

[Polemic]

Well I don't know about you, but I'm a reptoid.

[Carlhole]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/eye2.jpg
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'Zeitgeist, The Movie' and 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' were created as Not-for-Profit expressions to communicate what the author felt were highly important social understandings which most humans are generally not aware of. The first film focuses on suppressed historical & modern information about currently dominant social institutions, while also exploring what could be in store for humanity if the power structures at large continue their patterns of self-interest, corruption, and consolidation.

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