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Unread postby FreakOil » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 12:02:43

My girlfriend wants me to teach her how to swim. I'm an excellent swimmer, but I've never taught anyone how to swim before. Does anybody have any suggestions? I really like this girl, and I don't want her to die.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby Zardoz » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 12:06:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'M')y girlfriend wants me to teach her how to swim. I'm an excellent swimmer, but I've never taught anyone how to swim before. Does anybody have any suggestions? I really like this girl, and I don't want her to die.

Start off with the technique that seems to work real well with little kids: Have her get used to being face-down in water, blowing bubbles, in the shallowest part of a swimming pool, or even in a bathtub. That's a major step. Once kids get used to that, they're ready for the first steps of swimming instruction.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby catbox » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 12:17:00

Even though we started swimming with our daughter at 9 months...in the family style lessons, once she was old enough, she took lessons with a teacher and a few other kids. She's 7 now and loves the water and swims like a fish! I left it to the pros and it worked out well. She really likes the social part of it too.....she has FUN.


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Re: Swimming

Unread postby steam_cannon » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 13:46:25

Yeah the face in the water thing is a good place to start.

And there are a few other things to consider like location and
not embarrassing her.

* If it's a river or lake, you can just get a life vest and let her get used
to bobbing around learning to kick.

* But if it's a pool, kids use kick boards, but adults really don't usually
use them. So if she is shy about using a "kids" kickboard, instead she
could use those foam floaty sticks without any embarrassment, since
they are perfectly acceptable for adults to use in pools.

* Also, take it slow if she has any issues with fear of swimming. She
may want to learn, but if fear has trumped learning in the past
then you don't want to push it.

* Check on the net for adult swim classes / instructors in your area.
It might be an hour drive and a few hundred bucks, but often
people deal with teachers they are unfamiliar with better then with
people they know.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'I')'m an excellent swimmer, but I've never taught anyone how to swim
before. Does anybody have any suggestions? I really like this girl, and
I don't want her to die.
There's no shame in not teaching her yourself. Often very nice
people can be very difficult when trying to learn something. She
may tell you she won't be any trouble, but she may get very angry
with you for simply telling her what to do because she can
do it her way
. Drills upset people when it's not a stranger. So if
you really do care, sometimes it's better to spend your date money
on paying a swimming instructor then letting her screw up your
relationship.

I'm just saying, there's more to worry about then her sinkin...
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby kpeavey » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 13:57:06

In order to swim a person needs to learn how to make themselves float in the water. After that, its all about propulsion.

Have her wear a life jacket and start with a doggie paddle near the shore, moving parallel to the shore, with you within reach at all times, and never deeper than about 4' of water.

As she struggles to move in the water, her body will be making the adjustments needed to learn to float. As with riding a bike, you can't teach balance, the body has to learn it on its own. All you are really doing is offering the support needed for her to overcome a natural fear of going underwater. She needs to become comfortable in the water.

Flippers can help a great deal. The things will give her considerably more thrust, and they can be a lot of fun. With the problem of propulsion simplified, her body will be more able to adjust to floating.

The next step is to remove the flippers or the lifejacket. A smaller floatation device would be an incremental step. There are arm floats on the market. After that, move out to water 5' deep. Until she learns, I would not go further out than that.

It may take several trips to the water for her to learn to swim, so be sure to make a day of it. Potato salad, some tunes, soda, a blanket. Avoid the beer while she is learning.

I don't remember learning to swim. As kids we were always in the water in the summer. A bunch of fish we were.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby steam_cannon » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 14:14:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', '
')It may take several trips to the water for her to learn to swim
"Cough" 30 "Cough"

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 's')o be sure to make a day of it. Potato salad, some tunes, soda,
a blanket.
A helmet, diamond earings...

I'll say again, there's no shame in hiring a swimming instructor. Unless
she is a good teacher, don't assume she's an agreeable student. If she
decides she hates swimming, at least she won't hate you. Depends on
the person I know, but I've taught enough people computer software and
people aren't drowning in an office (but you'd think they were).

And my wife for example, two masters degrees and she's the kind
of student who would argue with a professor during class. Teaching
my wife anything isn't worth it in my opinion. There are a lot of
people out there who want to learn, but cannot help themselves
from being upset at whoever is teaching them. I'm not saying these
are bad people, it's just their nature and I think it's the nature of
most students.

So if you're teaching her, maybe consider a life vest and a helmet... :lol:

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P.S. Something to consider when you read these answers is, people
who blog are often people who like to teach. So you may get a lot
of answers telling how to teach her yourself, but that may or may
not be the best thing to do.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Sat 29 Mar 2008, 14:16:47

warm pool can make a difference. 83 degrees Fahrenheit vs. 79 degrees F., just those 4 degrees can make a difference. 79 can feel a little chilly, unless you're swimming fast.

getting in motion when you first get in the pool is a good idea. for example, just having her walk in the shallow end for about 5 minutes, so that she warms up a little bit.

also, the pool might frag her hair. a swimming cap might be useful, depending on how much she submerges her head when swimming. if it helps her not worry about her hair, so she can concentrate on learning to swim.

then having some hair conditioner & shampoo for afterwards, so she can partially de-frag her hair.

also, going to a sporting good store before to get THE perfect goggles, would be a good idea. the science of goggles has moved a lot in the 1995-2005 time-frame. they should fit so well that they will stay on without a strap. if the strap is too tight they will be uncomfortable.

i don't use goggles any more when i swim, i use a skin-diving mask.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby FreakOil » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 09:24:43

Thanks for the advice everybody. I've got my heart set on teaching her myself. She's very patient and eager to learn, so I don't anticipate any problems with her attitude. I'd like to wait a month or two for the water to get to a comfortable temperature, or I may give her lessons during our trip to Hainan in May. It's in the tropics.

I'll definitely have her put her face in the water to get comfortable. Then I'll teach her to float; I saw that trick in a movie once. I'll buy a lifejacket, and I don't have to worry about her being embarassed wearing it because there are plenty of isolated beaches here in Hong Kong where we can be alone. When the jacket's off, I'll make sure she stays in shallow enough water at first so that she can stand up if she panicks. And I'll always be close by to catch her. A paddleboard sounds like a good idea too.

Keep the tips coming.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby gampy » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 15:09:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'T')hanks for the advice everybody. I've got my heart set on teaching her myself. She's very patient and eager to learn, so I don't anticipate any problems with her attitude. I'd like to wait a month or two for the water to get to a comfortable temperature, or I may give her lessons during our trip to Hainan in May. It's in the tropics.

I'll definitely have her put her face in the water to get comfortable. Then I'll teach her to float; I saw that trick in a movie once. I'll buy a lifejacket, and I don't have to worry about her being embarassed wearing it because there are plenty of isolated beaches here in Hong Kong where we can be alone. When the jacket's off, I'll make sure she stays in shallow enough water at first so that she can stand up if she panicks. And I'll always be close by to catch her. A paddleboard sounds like a good idea too.

Keep the tips coming.


Only tip I can offer is this:

Don't make it about you. If you want to teach her swimming, help her learn, don't use it as an excuse to stroke your ego. Find a method of instruction that doesn't involve yelling at her, or taking on a dominant role, or a confrontational tone. Worst way to kill a relationship, or friendship is to try and be a teacher. It's a rare person who can be in love, and be a good teacher at the same time.

Anyone ever try and teach a significant other how to drive?
Or cook? Lol... not a good idea.

You will have a big fight if you allow yourself to take too much control. If you can't put your ego in a little box, send her to a swimming instructor.

When she doesn't respond to your "suggestions" or instructions, you will get frustrated. Which will piss her off and ta da! No sex for you.

I would advise against this. Seriously. You are asking for a lot of grief.
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby steam_cannon » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 15:35:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'A')nyone ever try and teach a significant other how to drive?
Yes I have. She had never even ridden a bike but she wanted me to
teach her and I did my best. I also got her a driving instructor so she
could refine some of her skills with someone else...

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Just a random picture, nothing to do with my wifes driving... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby steam_cannon » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 15:47:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'W')hen she doesn't respond to your "suggestions" or instructions, you
will get frustrated. Which will piss her off and ta da! No sex for you.
Seriously, that's human nature. Chicks in bathing suits look sexy, but
angry chicks tend not to want sex. This may be one of those situations
where in retrospect you think "If I only took that advice, I'd be getting
laid right now..."

But on the other hand, if you two survive this you'll survive anything
and have a great wedding! :-D
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby FreakOil » Sun 30 Mar 2008, 23:49:55

Don't worry fellas, I've got patience in spades. I did a brief stint as an English teacher at a Chinese kindergarten, and I managed not to crack up even with a dozen five-year-old running around, throwing things and screaming in a language I could barely undertand.

Here's my basic lesson plan, though I'm willing to make changes:

1) Have her put her face in the water and make bubbles, just to get comfortable being in the water.

2) Teach her to float, keeping ahold of her at first and staying in shallow enough water that she can stand up if things go wrong.

3/4) Have her swim with a kickboard in shallow water, keeping close to her at all times.

3/4) Have her swim in deeper water with a lifejacket.

I think this is a good start. Any criticisms or suggesions on how to go further?
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Re: Swimming

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 09:30:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'I') think this is a good start. Any criticisms or suggesions on how to go further?


swimming in the ocean is a lot of fun. and has its own set of guidelines.

{ shark attacks/ swimmer hour } is a relevant statistic. Hawaii and Florida don't do too well here. San Diego does better, specifically the La Jolla underwater nature preserve. (plenty of sting rays, though, to make even wading exciting.)

it doesn't sound like you'll be going to a situation where rip-tides are a concern.

but i'll go ahead and add an amendment to the common advice about "swimming parallel to the shore". it matters a lot what direction the waves that are creating the rip-tide are coming from. if they're coming from the Northwest, and you're on the California coast, and you start swimming north, there's a good chance you will just stay in place (in terms of latitude), and just drift further (and further) from the shore.

the one time this happened to me, i was there by choice. as it turned out, swimming South East - the same direction as the waves creating the rip - turned out to be the way out of that rip tide.
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