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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 02:33:30

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I assume the party was at a house that needed cleaning because it was dirty, right?

You worked the gig by cleaning up the house?




yea, uhm sure. We run a completely legit house cleaning service.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby threadbear » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 02:33:52

I considered working for an escort agency once, about 20 years ago. I decided I'd only sleep with men who were attractive, cultivated and who really loved me, though. Oh, and they had to be single too! I got married instead... what's the difference?
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby BigTex » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 02:38:56

Do you have a good vehicle to take the girls around in, along with their cleaning supplies?

Maybe something like this would be a good choice:

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If you need a good pimp ride for personal transportation, you may want to think about something a little unconventional. This would also permit you to mow the grass while the ladies cleaned the house if the client needed both services.

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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby gg3 » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 09:38:57

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Oh my.

Jason, I do hope you're treating your employees with appropriate professional courtesy and not indulging in the kind of thug-trash behavior that often occurs among guys who manage gals in "adult" businesses. Set a standard, set an example. And doing so will rapidly prove more profitable via sheer volume of business: you'll attract the best employees, they will stick around and learn their routines well, and they'll have jobs with dignity in an industry that is usually lacking in that department. Your clients will see healthy happy employees who really do seem to enjoy the job, and thereby will recommend you to others.

One thing you could try is to go for the theatrics. Have your employees develop role-playing personae that have something to do with the combination of housecleaning and nudity. For example they show up with the industrial vacuum and one of the women holds the nozzle like it's a rifle, and then says to the other, "Turn me on, big gal, it's time for some powerful suction!" and the other flips the switch to turn on the cleaner. Feather dusters have theatrical possibilities, they can be used to emphasize hand gestures in the same manner as a cigarette holder. Have a brainstorming session where you come up with ideas of this sort, and then do practice sessions and role-plays.

So. What's next? Anyone want to start talking about their new business growing pungent green herbs or making books...?:-)

Re. "if it feels good, do it." So long as it's all among consenting adults (fully informed consent) and it's sustainable, sure go right ahead. BTW, adultery doesn't cut it, there's a non-consenting party, specifically the partner who is being cheated on.

Puritanism is a psychiatric disorder usually accompanied by a propensity toward violence, and not the type of violence that's occasionally necessary in defending your land against outlaws. A good dose of healthy sensually-oriented hedonism is exactly what this culture needs right now. And, done right, it will become a viable substitute for a lot of the consumer goods that are going to disappear.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 11:33:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I')f all your hos called in sick the same day, would you have to go clean the houses yourself?

I assume you'd still want to give them a good show.

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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 12:33:45

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Oh my.

Jason, I do hope you're treating your employees with appropriate professional courtesy and not indulging in the kind of thug-trash behavior that often occurs among guys who manage gals in "adult" businesses. Set a standard, set an example. And doing so will rapidly prove more profitable via sheer volume of business: you'll attract the best employees, they will stick around and learn their routines well, and they'll have jobs with dignity in an industry that is usually lacking in that department. Your clients will see healthy happy employees who really do seem to enjoy the job, and thereby will recommend you to others.

One thing you could try is to go for the theatrics. Have your employees develop role-playing personae that have something to do with the combination of housecleaning and nudity. For example they show up with the industrial vacuum and one of the women holds the nozzle like it's a rifle, and then says to the other, "Turn me on, big gal, it's time for some powerful suction!" and the other flips the switch to turn on the cleaner. Feather dusters have theatrical possibilities, they can be used to emphasize hand gestures in the same manner as a cigarette holder. Have a brainstorming session where you come up with ideas of this sort, and then do practice sessions and role-plays.

So. What's next? Anyone want to start talking about their new business growing pungent green herbs or making books...?:-)

Re. "if it feels good, do it." So long as it's all among consenting adults (fully informed consent) and it's sustainable, sure go right ahead. BTW, adultery doesn't cut it, there's a non-consenting party, specifically the partner who is being cheated on.

Puritanism is a psychiatric disorder usually accompanied by a propensity toward violence, and not the type of violence that's occasionally necessary in defending your land against outlaws. A good dose of healthy sensually-oriented hedonism is exactly what this culture needs right now. And, done right, it will become a viable substitute for a lot of the consumer goods that are going to disappear.


It is all good, I treat the girls very professionally, and I am hardly a thug. i consider myself a gentleman. The whole theme of our business is cleaning. Also none of them would ever engage in illegal activity for any amount of money. They are just trying to make some money to help pay for school. One of the girls was actually planning to do livejasmine webcam feeds to earn money and when she heard about this, she realized this had more dignity.

I see nothing wrong with a women exploiting her natural given abilities to earn money. I honestly don't see why more women don't just do it. In a way, they are not being the one exploited, they are the ones doing the exploiting.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 12:35:11

Do you all think, that I should just hire some guards for the girls, or do you think it would be safer if I just kept this small and did that myself?

I am just not sure I can trust anyone else.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 13:27:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'D')o you all think, that I should just hire some guards for the girls, or do you think it would be safer if I just kept this small and did that myself?

I am just not sure I can trust anyone else.


Budget minded pimps in the know can count on a proper pitbull/rott mix.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby BigTex » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 13:40:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'D')o you all think, that I should just hire some guards for the girls, or do you think it would be safer if I just kept this small and did that myself?

I am just not sure I can trust anyone else.


You might want to look into some kind of MasterBlaster kind of setup. That might be a good compromise for you.

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You should see if Big Show is available. (Imagine the guy in the pic decided he didn't want to pay for his housecleaning)

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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 15:04:40

At only a 30% cut, you are not a pimp, you don't even make the list of Hollywood agents and managers.

Get some respect from your workers. Get your cut up to 50% at least.

And make sure to hire women that inspire crushes from good-money-earning nerds and shy guys (friendly, open, chatty). These guys will call the same woman back and back and back hoping she'll like him. Watch the South Park Episode about how Hooters does training for how their servers should treat customers for ideas for your workers to exploit loneliness.

Charger a higher rate for a school-girl outfits of non-topless white shirt and short plaid skirt with white cotton underwear.

Isn't Puritanism and a social system based on competition nicely bankrupt of meaningful values?
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 16:04:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'D')o you all think, that I should just hire some guards for the girls, or do you think it would be safer if I just kept this small and did that myself?

I am just not sure I can trust anyone else.


I would keep it small. If you include others, they will rip you off or possibly take over your gig. You got a good gig going and seem to be making good money, what more could you want?
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby Stratovarius » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 16:28:14

Personally, this thread is absolutely hilarious to me. I cannot believe what you have done here sir. You'll go down in history as the first maid pimp.

Screw the un-enterprising people. Get a whole mass corporation going on this.

JR's Maids Co. ... Who thought cleaning could be this sexy?
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 16:36:40

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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby Stratovarius » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 16:40:56

Wow!
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 17:12:40

The girls are the ones exposing themselves. I don't put them at risk so I have nothing to fear. They don't work for me, they work for themselves, I am just helping to facilitate the service.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', 'A')t only a 30% cut, you are not a pimp, you don't even make the list of Hollywood agents and managers.

Get some respect from your workers. Get your cut up to 50% at least.

And make sure to hire women that inspire crushes from good-money-earning nerds and shy guys (friendly, open, chatty). These guys will call the same woman back and back and back hoping she'll like him. Watch the South Park Episode about how Hooters does training for how their servers should treat customers for ideas for your workers to exploit loneliness.

Charger a higher rate for a school-girl outfits of non-topless white shirt and short plaid skirt with white cotton underwear.

Isn't Puritanism and a social system based on competition nicely bankrupt of meaningful values?
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 17:19:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')ell, not the first:

http://toplesscleaners.com/

http://top-maids.com/order.html

http://www.shedevilservices.com/faq.htm

etc...


But the best, and I launch a website. It won't look like those pile of trashes.
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 17:24:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')But the best, and I launch a website. It won't look like those pile of trashes.


Great! I hope you'll post a link here when you're ready. :)
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 17:33:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')But the best, and I launch a website. It won't look like those pile of trashes.


Great! I hope you'll post a link here when you're ready. :)



You just want to see my girls ;)
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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby BigTex » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 18:01:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'T')he girls are the ones exposing themselves. I don't put them at risk so I have nothing to fear. They don't work for me, they work for themselves, I am just helping to facilitate the service.


A few suggestions:

1. Get an agreement from each girl stating the terms and conditions of their contractual relationship with you. You want to make DAMN SURE these ladies are indepdendent contractors and not employees.

2. Be very careful sampling the services. Girls that age will do crazy things, but when they get older sometimes they will do unpredictable things as they reflect on their poor behavior, like SUE YOU. For what? A lot of different things. Trust me.

3. Keep very good records of all income and disbursements. You will need to issue these ladies Form 1099s at the end of the year, assuming they are independent contractors and not employees, and you need to have good documentation. Income tax evasion is typically what catches up with these operations.

4. Have an agreement that your clients sign, outlining exactly what you and your ladies will be providing to them. Make sure that the client and the lady signs each agreement/invoice and everyone gets a copy (client, you and the lady).

5. Take a look at any local ordinances regading adult-oriented businesses. If there is something about not within 1,000 feet of a school or something like that, better to find out now rather than later.

6. Once you have done all of this, take all of your findings to a local attorney and ask him what additional recommendations he/she may have for you. That will probably cost you $500 to $1,000 and it will probably be the best money you will spend on this endeavor.

When you've done all that, then you can get back to pimpin'

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Re: Legal Advice Needed

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Fri 21 Mar 2008, 18:14:37

So JR, have any of the clients gotten a little too excited and made a "mess" while watching the maids do their job. And if so, do the maids have to clean it up? Or do you hand out complimentary boxes of tissues to every client?
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