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ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby emersonbiggins » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 15:28:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')arch 18 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve cut its main lending rate by three quarters of a percentage point to 2.25 percent as officials try to prop up the faltering economy and restore faith in the U.S. financial system.
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby qualia787 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 15:36:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')arch 18 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve cut its main lending rate by three quarters of a percentage point to 2.25 percent as officials try to prop up the faltering economy and restore faith in the U.S. financial system.
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At this rate it will be ZERO by the end of the year
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Fed Cuts rate 0.75 percent

Postby AbbieT » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:01:14

http://peakworld.org/blog2.php/2008/03/ ... our-wallet

While not as much as some people hoped for. This is a huge cut. I bet they are going to ignite inflation, or stagflation even worse than they have.
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby Prince » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:04:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qualia787', 'A')t this rate it will be ZERO by the end of the year


I was wondering that today. Let's they keep cutting rates to practically 0, but the market is still in turmoil and the financial markets are still a mess. What happens in this case? They won't be able to cut rates anymore... So far the Fed has dropped rates from the mid-4's back in September to the 2's now, and the market and financial conditions are worse now than they were 6 months ago. Assume they'll cut rates again in 6 weeks. When there are no more jokers to pull out of the deck, what is the result?
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby qualia787 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:07:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qualia787', 'A')t this rate it will be ZERO by the end of the year


I was wondering that today. Let's they keep cutting rates to practically 0, but the market is still in turmoil and the financial markets are still a mess. What happens in this case? They won't be able to cut rates anymore... So far the Fed has dropped rates from the mid-4's back in September to the 2's now, and the market and financial conditions are worse now than they were 6 months ago. Assume they'll cut rates again in 6 weeks. When there are no more jokers to pull out of the deck, what is the result?


Maybe it could become negative and they will start paying us to borrow money?? Anything to keep the scheme going for a little while longer..
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby emersonbiggins » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:10:47

To a Fed with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Well, the hammer is looking mighty shoddy now, and the toilet is now not only leaking, but cracked as well.
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby FoxV » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:12:17

And yet Gold takes a dive on the news.

Oil responded properly with a nice 2% spike, but GLD is currently down 2%.

oh well I guess we'll just have to wait for the Europeans and Asian's to properly set the tone for gold in the overnight markets
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby Prince » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:12:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qualia787', 'M')aybe it could become negative and they will start paying us to borrow money??


Someone posted here a few weeks ago discussing negative interest rates. I can't remember who it was (MrBill or DantesPeak, I think), but they mentioned Japan had this back in the late 80s. How does this work? And in that case, why would anyone have an incentive to buy Treasuries or use a savings account (as it is, the incentive now is almost nil)?

I'm looking forward to reading the bullshit financial news in an hour when the market closes... Economy recovers--Dow UP 300 points!!. Just like last week's "biggest gain in 5 years". That lasted for 3 days.
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!!!2.25%!!!

Postby Nicholai » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 17:11:44

LOL, America fails.

Canada pwns.......

But seriously you dumbasses are going to drag us down with you.
Why did we ever have faith in you and not diversify our export market?
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')Fed Cuts Main Rate to 2.25%, Says Outlook `Weakened' (Update3)

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March 18 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve cut its main lending rate by three quarters of a percentage point to 2.25 percent as officials try to prop up the faltering economy and restore faith in the U.S. financial system.

``Today's policy action, combined with those taken earlier, including measures to foster market liquidity, should help to promote moderate growth over time and to mitigate the risks to economic activity,'' the Federal Open Market Committee said in a statement after meeting today in Washington.

Chairman Ben S. Bernanke is struggling to cushion consumers and companies from the worst of the credit freeze that's made some of the world's biggest banks reluctant to lend to each other. Officials also showed renewed concern about inflation, making a smaller reduction than traders anticipated. Two policy makers dissented in favor of ``less aggressive action.''

``Recent information indicates that the outlook for economic activity has weakened further,'' the Fed said. Still, ``inflation has been elevated, and some indicators of inflation expectations have risen,'' the Fed added.

The Fed Board of Governors also voted to lower the discount rate, the cost of direct loans from the central bank, to 2.5 percent.

Fisher, Plosser Dissent

Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher and Philadelphia Fed President Charles Plosser voted against today's decision.

Stocks extended their rally after retreating in the minutes after the decision was announced. The dollar jumped, while Treasury notes added to their decline.

``Relative to where inflation is running is where you begin to get the real tension between addressing the liquidity problems in the banks and the capital markets, and trying to encourage inflation to be under control for the long run,'' former Fed governor Susan Bies said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. `They are running very close, in this very high inflation environment, to how much they can deal with.''

The Fed has cut the benchmark lending rate by 2 percentage points this year, the most aggressive easing since the federal funds rate became an explicit target of policy in the late 1980s.

The decision follows a week of emergency actions by the U.S. central bank, which has pushed its $900 billion balance sheet into the front lines of market turmoil to quell a collapse of brokerage firms and market making in mortgage-backed securities.

Subprime Spillover

The Fed has lowered its benchmark overnight rate six times and the discount rate eight times since the middle of August, when the collapse of U.S. subprime mortgages started to infect markets around the world. The world's biggest financial companies have posted at least $195 billion in writedowns and credit losses tied to American mortgage markets as of March 14.

``It could be they went to 75 rather than 100, trying to buy off some dissenters,'' Lee Hoskins, former president of the Cleveland Fed, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. ``I'm disappointed in the statement. They give a nod to Inflation, but make no serious effort to target it.''

Last week, the Fed said it would swap out some of its Treasury holdings for mortgage-linked bonds issued by government-sponsored enterprises such as Fannie Mae and by private companies. On March 14, the Fed extended an undisclosed amount of credit to Bear Stearns Cos. to stave off a collapse, invoking a little-used rule that allows the central bank to loan to non-bank corporations.

Increasing Roles

Two days later, the Fed expanded on that rule and set up a lending window for dealers in government bonds, similar to the lender-of-last-resort function it has traditionally reserved for banks.

The moves helped relieve some stress in credit markets. Yield differences on a Bloomberg index for Fannie Mae's current- coupon, 30-year fixed rate mortgage bonds and 10-year U.S. government notes narrowed about 22 basis points to 176 basis points, or 61 basis points less than the 22-year high reached two weeks ago.

Still, mortgage lending will tumble to an eight-year low this year and house prices will continue to decline, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.

Mounting foreclosures are adding to the glut of unsold homes, and that is driving down property values. Home prices in 20 U.S. metropolitan areas fell in December by the most on record. The S&P Case-Shiller home-price index dropped 9.1 percent from December 2006.
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby Novus » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 17:40:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', 'I')'m looking forward to reading the bullshit financial news in an hour when the market closes... Economy recovers--Dow UP 300 points!!. Just like last week's "biggest gain in 5 years". That lasted for 3 days.


The Dow is up 420 points but I doubt it will last 3 days. Didn't we see this last week when they pumped BSC only to have it bankrupt a few days later. The jig is up. There is no confidence in the markets and the Fed has no credibility left.
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby qualia787 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:08:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', 'I')'m looking forward to reading the bullshit financial news in an hour when the market closes... Economy recovers--Dow UP 300 points!!. Just like last week's "biggest gain in 5 years". That lasted for 3 days.


The Dow is up 420 points but I doubt it will last 3 days. Didn't we see this last week when they pumped BSC only to have it bankrupt a few days later. The jig is up. There is no confidence in the markets and the Fed has no credibility left.



Have you guys seen the video where Ron Paul basically calls Ben and his pals (I know Ben is just the Puppet and not the "source" of power but still..) basically THIEVES? He Fed Chairman kept digging his nose but I can't imagine he didn't understand exactly what Ron Paul was talking about....

What I can't get my head wrapped around is this concept:

How can people (such as BEN) live with himself being such lying hypocritical rats????? Don't these people have trouble sleeping at night knowing sooner or later its all coming down?? Can anyone (with or without pyschology degree) answer this simple question? Surely he knows he is evil, so why is he continuing to hold this position, what does he PERSONALLY benefit??? I don't get it!!
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby Prince » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:33:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qualia787', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', 'I')'m looking forward to reading the bullshit financial news in an hour when the market closes... Economy recovers--Dow UP 300 points!!. Just like last week's "biggest gain in 5 years". That lasted for 3 days.


The Dow is up 420 points but I doubt it will last 3 days. Didn't we see this last week when they pumped BSC only to have it bankrupt a few days later. The jig is up. There is no confidence in the markets and the Fed has no credibility left.



Have you guys seen the video where Ron Paul basically calls Ben and his pals (I know Ben is just the Puppet and not the "source" of power but still..) basically THIEVES? He Fed Chairman kept digging his nose but I can't imagine he didn't understand exactly what Ron Paul was talking about....

What I can't get my head wrapped around is this concept:

How can people (such as BEN) live with himself being such lying hypocritical rats????? Don't these people have trouble sleeping at night knowing sooner or later its all coming down?? Can anyone (with or without pyschology degree) answer this simple question? Surely he knows he is evil, so why is he continuing to hold this position, what does he PERSONALLY benefit??? I don't get it!!


I love those videos. There have been about 3-4 occasions in the last 6 months (most recently a month ago) where Ron Paul has torn into Helicopter Ben. Ben just sits there with this stoic look on his face. There is a lot of truth to what Ron Paul says--basically people who are saving are being summoned to an inflation tax. They are being robbed blind. The bailout from the Feds to the tune of $200B is merely a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the banks. They fuck up; we pay for it. Absolutely criminal... and no one hardly bats an eye.
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby qualia787 » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:41:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qualia787', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', 'I')'m looking forward to reading the bullshit financial news in an hour when the market closes... Economy recovers--Dow UP 300 points!!. Just like last week's "biggest gain in 5 years". That lasted for 3 days.


The Dow is up 420 points but I doubt it will last 3 days. Didn't we see this last week when they pumped BSC only to have it bankrupt a few days later. The jig is up. There is no confidence in the markets and the Fed has no credibility left.



Have you guys seen the video where Ron Paul basically calls Ben and his pals (I know Ben is just the Puppet and not the "source" of power but still..) basically THIEVES? He Fed Chairman kept digging his nose but I can't imagine he didn't understand exactly what Ron Paul was talking about....

What I can't get my head wrapped around is this concept:

How can people (such as BEN) live with himself being such lying hypocritical rats????? Don't these people have trouble sleeping at night knowing sooner or later its all coming down?? Can anyone (with or without pyschology degree) answer this simple question? Surely he knows he is evil, so why is he continuing to hold this position, what does he PERSONALLY benefit??? I don't get it!!


I love those videos. There have been about 3-4 occasions in the last 6 months (most recently a month ago) where Ron Paul has torn into Helicopter Ben. Ben just sits there with this stoic look on his face. There is a lot of truth to what Ron Paul says--basically people who are saving are being summoned to an inflation tax. They are being robbed blind. The bailout from the Feds to the tune of $200B is merely a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the banks. They fuck up; we pay for it. Absolutely criminal... and no one hardly bats an eye.



Cannibalism occurs at the onset of every collapse. When you starve yourself (because of lack of food for example) your body first burns through its fat, then switches to burning proteins (muscle) to sustain itself. Eventually it eats away the organs and after that you die..

So we see all the mergers, outsourcing, third world cheap labor, the transfer of wealth from middle class to the top, etc... Fact of the matter is CANNIBALISM is occurring on all levels, global, local, international, corporate, governmental, etc... Other nations (Iraq, Iran) are being SACRIFICED so America can go on with the dream (nightmare) for a little while longer. The savings of honest Americans are being sacrificed so that WALL STREET can keep the lights of the party on and so that in effect we (all of us citizens of US) can have a system in which we collectively can go on for a little while longer....

When there is nothing left to cannibalize anymore then its all over fellas. Soon we may be experiencing the cannibalism on a individual level.... Bodily level....
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Re: ANOTHER 75bp rate cut

Postby heroineworshipper » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:47:19

It'll only get us ahead of prices until gas hits $5, then another rate cut will be required. Remember, inflation is a lagging indicator. Notice how he raised rates to 20% last year because of the lagging inflation?
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