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Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby roccman » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 00:00:37

"There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 00:09:14

What's this? US$ to take another tumble?

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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby DantesPeak » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 00:13:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '[')url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ae0IGuEKi9d4&refer=home]$115 oil?[/url]


That's still only the markets guess.

The new $100 billion bailout of Fannie/Freddie securities started on Friday signifies the direction the Fed will now take. Interest rates could get down to 2%, but that's already pushing it while inflation is officially at 4.3%.

Most likely the next surprise by the Fed is how many mortgage securities they will buy, and it will be a huge amount when Countrywide goes bankrupt.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby roccman » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 00:15:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'W')hat's this? US$ to take another tumble?

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I am going to steal a line from Prarie Mule and morph to the dollar (his orig comment was regarding CFC and current investigations)...

"just when you thought the dollar had no more teeth to spit on the mat..."

BTW nice head bounces on the way down the stairs,
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 00:16:53

I can't take credit for that GIF - it just felt right for this thread.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby Gandalf_the_White » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 02:08:23

I just told a very good friend of mine that oil would touch $110 this week. The Fed really has no place to go, drop rates to try to buoy the economy and then get slammed from the other side by higher oil and gas prices which would necessitate lowering interest rates. The other part of this big bail-out is that someone is going to get a free ride. Why should'nt they just forgive all the student loan debt so these college kids can start spending the money they wroked so hard to make? And does it really matter to the Fed, as long as the system keeps limping along they make their interest off the money the 'lend' to the American people [Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio.] Where's JFK when you need him?

The only question that remains is will the rate of depletion be kind enough to leave Bernanke any basis points at all. Or is the big bully spectre of oil depletion going to tell him to take his basis points and go home? Interest rates at 2% and inflation at 4%, Amstel is not going to think that makes good financial sense at all for a business masquerading as a government agency. This thing is going to implode this year. We are at ~3.20 per gallon for gas hear now and expecting another twenty or thirty cents in the next month. Summer peak demand will be curtailed and the official recession numbers will start rolling. CPI is going to accelarate upward while consumer confidence takes the last log down the porcelain express. The Presidential campaign is going to be about one thing, the economy.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 03:34:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '[')url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ae0IGuEKi9d4&refer=home]$115 oil?[/url]


That's still only the markets guess.

The new $100 billion bailout of Fannie/Freddie securities started on Friday signifies the direction the Fed will now take. Interest rates could get down to 2%, but that's already pushing it while inflation is officially at 4.3%.

Most likely the next surprise by the Fed is how many mortgage securities they will buy, and it will be a huge amount when Countrywide goes bankrupt.


That's a pretty good guess. Is there any reason oil wouldn't go up in price?
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby Johnvancouver » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 03:49:39

100bp cut could happen. Just listen to former Fed governor Bob McTeer's prayer on WSJ: "Lord, make our dollar strong, but not just yet." How do you lower the dollar? Lower the rates of course. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1204945 ... mmentaries
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby cube » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 07:25:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '.')..
That's a pretty good guess. Is there any reason oil wouldn't go up in price?
It is my observation that the market sometimes moves very differently then what the media would suggest, or maybe that's just me getting paranoid! What happens between now and next month.......leave that to the speculators. What happens between now and the next couple years.......that's where investors step in.

BTW I just read that we are now officially in a recession b/c our fearless leader GWB has said so. You know what that means right? When the government makes an announcement that means it happened 3 months ago. But the good news is that his stimulus plan "should" help things out a little. *cough*
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby dorlomin » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 08:06:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')That's a pretty good guess. Is there any reason oil wouldn't go up in price?
Chinas trade surplus drops


Yes people stop buying it. If Americans stop buying Chinese goods, then China will buy less oil. $100 oil will be hurting China very badly.

Time for China to float its currency and decouple by starting building its own internal markets.

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seems some people agree with some of what I said although its hardly all that original an idea. Many others have said the same for a long time before me.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby xerces » Tue 11 Mar 2008, 02:00:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')That's a pretty good guess. Is there any reason oil wouldn't go up in price?
Chinas trade surplus drops


Yes people stop buying it. If Americans stop buying Chinese goods, then China will buy less oil. $100 oil will be hurting China very badly.

Time for China to float its currency and decouple by starting building its own internal markets.

Edited to add
seems some people agree with some of what I said although its hardly all that original an idea. Many others have said the same for a long time before me.


How does that help anything? If China built up their own internal markets further, even more oil will be consumed to supply us AND them with trinkets.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby Micki » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 00:35:43

No, China would then stop producing trinkets for the US market and with a stronger Yuan, oil would be cheaper.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby heroineworshipper » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 02:02:43

200bp. It's only paper.
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Re: Bloomberg:Fed to cut 100bp

Unread postby BillPeakOil » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 12:51:32

Boy, if they do a 100bp cut then we know things are much worse than they are being portrayed. But, I guess we already knew that!
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