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What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sun 16 Mar 2008, 22:33:11

Inspired by PMS Tolkien topic, what stories, movies/ tv, plays, music are likely to survive? I know the film isn't likely to survive but assuming there is any value to the stories told in movies and tv I'd assume they'd turn into stories or plays.
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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 16 Mar 2008, 22:36:28

The Ode to Joy will survive.
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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby Stratovarius » Sun 16 Mar 2008, 22:42:29

Porn.

Also, I'm sure there will be plenty of surviving hard drives scattered about even if it's Judgment Day or nuclear war. We'll keep everything scientific necessary to learn how to rebuild.
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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby chrispi » Sun 16 Mar 2008, 23:15:04

Dungeons and Dragons, perhaps? :-D

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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Sun 16 Mar 2008, 23:28:44

The safety Dance.
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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby loopy » Sun 16 Mar 2008, 23:47:27

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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby chrispi » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 00:00:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('loopy', 'F')lash memory data retention is pretty lousy (around 10-20 years). I'm not talking about write cycles, I mean data just sitting there. So don't plan on putting the Encyclopedia Galactica on an e-book reader hoping it can reboot humanity 100 years from now :lol:

There's TONS of electronics that depend on the stuff to work (I'm talking about firmware, CPLD / FPGA logic, etc). It will all just quit working one day, for no apparent reason.

Chew on that thought for a while...

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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby loopy » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 00:39:20

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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby WildRose » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 04:57:06

Children's books:

- Dr. Seuss

- Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown

- Winnie the Pooh stories

- The Grinch Who Stole Christmas

They'll survive because so many of us loved them and remember them by heart.
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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby FreakOil » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 05:37:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('loopy', '(')sorry for diverting the topic back there)

I reckon looking to the past will give you your answer. The music and stories that have already lasted hundreds of years are the most likely ones to last a few hundred more.


In some places, there's not much left that people remember anymore. How many American folk tales and folk songs were there back in the 19 century? How many are there today? I think we may make a new folk tradition using bits and pieces of the old and what we've got today that's worth holding onto.

The American ballad tradition may survive. I'm thinking of Bob Dylan, Woodie Guthrie, Johnny Cash, etc. A lot of the songs are timeless and easy to play, so they'll be passed on from singer to singer.

Perhaps some movies will be turned into bedtime stories. Imagine a child asking his father to tell him a story before bed, and all the father can remember is Terminator II.
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Re: What book,stories, and music would survive TEOTWAWKI?

Unread postby bodigami » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 00:46:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('loopy', 'F')lash memory data retention is pretty lousy (around 10-20 years). I'm not talking about write cycles, I mean data just sitting there. So don't plan on putting the Encyclopedia Galactica on an e-book reader hoping it can reboot humanity 100 years from now :lol:

There's TONS of electronics that depend on the stuff to work (I'm talking about firmware, CPLD / FPGA logic, etc). It will all just quit working one day, for no apparent reason.

Chew on that thought for a while...


binary data can be encoded as a series of holes and not-holes in a metallic plate (this tech was used but on paper). As long as you have the decoder digital data can be preserved a lot. What makes current implementations so succesful is that they're cheap to copy and read (if there's a lot of complex electronic context).
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