[benzoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I') hope the entire US/Western Oligarchy goes down and joins the rest of us in the food lines. If I had one wish, it would be for the east to rise up and put the icing on the cake by dumping those damn dollars and burying the oligarchs with them.

[Heineken]

This is big news. Events like this can launch depressions.

Perhaps the dike is giving way, its cracks no longer pluggable.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I') hope the entire US/Western Oligarchy goes down and joins the rest of us in the food lines. If I had one wish, it would be for the east to rise up and put the icing on the cake by dumping those damn dollars and burying the oligarchs with them.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')arlyle Group? Like in "the" Carlyle Group, the creepy private equity in which Bush Senior mingle with members of the Bin Laden family? So, it's plummeting? Good news

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'T')his is big news. Events like this can launch depressions.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I') hope the entire US/Western Oligarchy goes down and joins the rest of us in the food lines. If I had one wish, it would be for the east to rise up and put the icing on the cake by dumping those damn dollars and burying the oligarchs with them.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JFT', 'C')arlyle Group? Like in "the" Carlyle Group, the creepy private equity in
which Bush Senior mingles with members of the Bin Laden family?

[stu]

Bush family touched by subprime crisis

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The fear in the market according to informed reports is that its entire portfolio, recently valued at $21 billion, could be sold off in a distress sale, putting major downward pressure on all mortgage bonds globally. A collapse at Carlyle would hit the value of all fixed-income securities, which have already dropped sharply as banks pull back on their lending, and force a new global round of asset sales.

[mekrob]

So I have about $3 grand saved up, a little less since I just bought some books and silver over the past 3 days. I've been planning on dumping a good 1-2 thousand dollars into gold and silver (approximately evenly) come May (I'm in an apartment and don't want to have thousands of dollars going through more hands before it gets to me - and I have to go online since there aren't any reputable sources nearby). Do I have enough time to wait till May to dump my dollars or should I do it ASAP to avoid a depreciating dollar? Is there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?

[Ferretlover]

The Iron Triangle-The Carlyle Group Exposed
Exposed

CHRONOLOGY: The Bushes And The Carlyle Group
by Jerry Politex, Mon 10 Jan 2000
In early September the "Washington Post" published a story about Bush "top fund-raiser" Wayne Berman, president of Park Strategies LLC in Connecticut, whose activities are being looked at by the FBI. One such activity has $50 million in state pension funds being invested through Park Strategies into a Carlyle Group fund. Carlyle is a "Washington merchant bank and client of Park Strategies that retains former president George Bush as a senior consultant." In 1991 Bush had appointed Berman to be assistant secretary of commerce. Last year Berman and retired senator Al D'Amato (R-NY) formed Park Strategies and hired Paul Silvester, who previously was Connecticut's treasurer and was in charge of investing state pension funds. According to the Washington Post, "Silvester was a catch for the firm because of his familiarity with state treasurers from around the country, who control massive pension funds hungry for new investments. Berman too is intimately familiar with many top state officials because he is a leading fund-raiser for the Republican Governors Association."
The Carlyle Group is also a who's-who of political operatives: "Like Park Strategies, Carlyle also markets its familiarity with government officials--among its partners are former secretary of state James A. Baker III, former defense secretary Frank C. Carlucci and former White House budget chief Richard Darman. The Carlyle Asian investment fund that received the $50 million sum from Connecticut also retains former president Bush as a top adviser, and Carlyle's European fund retains former British prime minister John Major. Both men have made hundreds of thousands of dollars counseling Carlyle on where to invest its money overseas, introducing Carlyle executives to foreign leaders and giving speeches at Carlyle gatherings. Bush's fees from Carlyle are poured into his accounts in various Carlyle funds, which lately have yielded up to 40 percent a year in returns." ...
Who's Who

Carlyle Capital in default, on brink of collapse Mar 13 2008 9:07AM EDT By Reed Stevenson
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - An affiliate of U.S.-based buyout firm Carlyle Group has defaulted on about $16.6 billion of debt and expects its lenders to seize remaining assets as the global credit crunch tightens around leveraged investors.
Carlyle Capital Corp , a fund listed in Amsterdam, said in New York late on Wednesday that talks with lenders deteriorated after a drop in the value of its mortgage investments, which it said would result in margin calls of $97.5 million on top of the $400 million it was already facing.
A "successful refinancing is not possible," Carlyle Capital said, after trying for the past week to work out a deal with lenders to stave off bankruptcy. …
Defaulting

The Carlyle Group, with more than $75 billion under management, is one of the world's largest private investment firms. Moreover, it seems that Carlyle likes to keep all options open: Undertakings include management-led buyouts, minority equity investments, real estate, venture capital, and leveraged finance opportunities in the aerospace and defense, automotive and transportation, consumer and retail, energy and power, healthcare, industrial, technology and business services, and telecommunications and media sectors. Since its founding in 1987, the firm has made more than 500 corporate and real estate investments; it now maintains offices in about 15 countries and oversees some 50 private equity funds.
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[benzoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'I')s there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'I')s there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'I')s there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?

[emersonbiggins]

Apparently, real news like this is trumped by S&P "projections" of the subprime writedowns ending soon (ha!). Result? Dow up 72 points, from -200 at open. Irrational exuberance, indeed.

[threadbear]

Dolorim, To a degree, you're right. Our system has been destroying cultures and the planet for decades, and we're not out of our mind with shame and fear, until it knocks on our own door.

Who was it that said, "I have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us"?

[Ferretlover]

Did anyone keep track of all the changes proposed (?) by Paulsen today?
Are they logical, or ...?

[Iaato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'S')ince its founding in 1987, the firm has made more than 500 corporate and real estate investments; it now maintains offices in about 15 countries and oversees some 50 private equity funds.
Related Companies
Name Exchange Symbol Last Trade Change Mkt Cap
The Gores Group, LLC
Kohlberg & Company, L.L.C.
Carlyle Capital Corporation Limited AMS CCC 0.20 -2.60 (-92.86%) 4.26M
TPG Capital
Henry Crown and Company
D. E. Shaw & Co., L.P.
The Yucaipa Companies LLC
Castle Harlan, Inc.
The Riverside Company
Keystone Group, L.P.

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'I')s there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?

[mattduke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'D')o I have enough time to wait till May to dump my dollars or should I do it ASAP to avoid a depreciating dollar? Is there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', ' ')Is there a good chance of the dollar losing 20-50% of its value in 2 months?