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Re: Drugs in US drinking water
by Gandalf_the_White » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 19:30:50
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This issue has been bubbling up for about fifteen years in certian circles. I'm glad they have finally let it see some daylight. Imagine the uproar when they realize that the estrogen mimics have been demasculinating the population.
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Re: Drugs in US drinking water
by mmasters » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 19:36:25
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'T')his is all about dumbing down and controlling the population.
I don't think that's very true. It fundamentally comes down to the idea that we can produce all these chemicals and then when we're done with them we'll throw them "away". The problem is that invariably somebody lives in "away" and they're none to happy about having your garbage thrown on them. Every drug that you take, pretty much, ends up in your urine and someone else's drinking water. With 6 billion of us peeing out drugs, it's potentially a very serious problem. As steam cannon points out, our throughly illogical system for waste disposal and decontamination certainly doesn't help the situation any. Poop and urine should go onto soil. Soil bacteria would break a lot of this stuff down before it got to the waterways. When you pee and poop into water, the stuff doesn't have time to break down before someone else drinks it.
I bet you were one of those who thought there were WMDs in Iraq too.
In any case NYC uses a reservoir that does not get that type of run off. Similarly, San Francisco's water comes from piped supplies from a mountainous area where there is no heavy population. I'm sure you can come up with some other explanation for why the water in these cities is full of drugs and mostly estrogen like?
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Re: Health: Pharmaceuticals lurking in U.S. drinking water
by angrysurgeon » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 20:12:20
Lets not hype this too much. The human body has got three extraordinary good organs (liver, kidney and lungs) to quickly get rid of unwanted chemicals. (The liver is an ENORMOUS 2 kg gland, packed with enzymes for making chemical substances watersoluble in order to be flushed down the toilet, through a quick pass through the kidneys first of course.)
The blood brain barrier (made up of cells, blocking any large molecules from entering the brain and equipped with ABC transporters that efficiently and indiscriminately pump out any substances that somehow do enter the brain into the blood again) is also an extremely valuable molecular mechanism that evolution has equiped us with, to aid us when we accidently tasted dangerous and new plants when we all were cavemen.
The concentration of these organic substances are so low in the drinking water, in fact almost homeopathic, that the cost/benefit of getting rid of them rests heavily on the cost side. Id probably guess that the majority of people would die of a cardiovascular diseases rather than an accumulation of these substances in the body.
I do agree though that the estrogen like substances could be a nuisance (Estrogen like compounds are a general growth signal in the body, which could among many things lead to the fact that any dormant cancer cell could get a little louder wakeup call than usual [Men and women already have estrogen hormones in the body]).
Id worry about global warming, resource wars, antibiotic resistant strands of bacteria (tuberculosis), joblessness, homelessness, rampant imperialism, egoism and consumerism before i worry about this (IN THE WEST).
The blood brain barrier (made up of cells, blocking any large molecules from entering the brain and equipped with ABC transporters that efficiently and indiscriminately pump out any substances that somehow do enter the brain into the blood again) is also an extremely valuable molecular mechanism that evolution has equiped us with, to aid us when we accidently tasted dangerous and new plants when we all were cavemen.
The concentration of these organic substances are so low in the drinking water, in fact almost homeopathic, that the cost/benefit of getting rid of them rests heavily on the cost side. Id probably guess that the majority of people would die of a cardiovascular diseases rather than an accumulation of these substances in the body.
I do agree though that the estrogen like substances could be a nuisance (Estrogen like compounds are a general growth signal in the body, which could among many things lead to the fact that any dormant cancer cell could get a little louder wakeup call than usual [Men and women already have estrogen hormones in the body]).
Id worry about global warming, resource wars, antibiotic resistant strands of bacteria (tuberculosis), joblessness, homelessness, rampant imperialism, egoism and consumerism before i worry about this (IN THE WEST).
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Re: Drugs in US drinking water
by smallpoxgirl » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 21:06:31
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'I') bet you were one of those who thought there were WMDs in Iraq too.
In any case NYC uses a reservoir that does not get that type of run off. Similarly, San Francisco's water comes from piped supplies from a mountainous area where there is no heavy population. I'm sure you can come up with some other explanation for why the water in these cities is full of drugs and mostly estrogen like?
In any case NYC uses a reservoir that does not get that type of run off. Similarly, San Francisco's water comes from piped supplies from a mountainous area where there is no heavy population. I'm sure you can come up with some other explanation for why the water in these cities is full of drugs and mostly estrogen like?
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What we thought would never end
Now is nothing more than a memory
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