[seldom_seen]

The most simple, elegant, humane way to transition in to to a post oil future would be to sacrifice the machines first. This would be life affirming and would save much human suffering.

Jet skis, chainsaws, backhoes, excavators, snowmobiles, leaf blowers, ATVs, toyotas, cadilacs, water bikes, ski boats...et cetera...et cetera...

All...except essential agricultural and transport machines.

The race now is to keep the machines alive. This is the inert programming of the technological megamachine. To run the machine on rainforest and cornfield, sugarcane and pine cones. The psychosis of the machine age.

So, you the gentle reader, must realize. That your future, your survival, is not man against man, but man against machine. Many will die, never even knowing their enemy was the machine.

[Oil-Finder]

OK, you start: Get rid of your computer.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', 'O')K, you start: Get rid of your computer.

[Oil-Finder]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', 'O')K, you start: Get rid of your computer.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', 'O')K, you start: Get rid of your computer.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', 'S')orry, I've got none of those.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'N')ow, let me ask what exactly are you doing?

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')I also power my laptop... well sometimes using my solar powered back pack.

[FoolYap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')he most simple, elegant, humane way to transition in to to a post oil future would be to sacrifice the machines first. This would be life affirming and would save much human suffering.

... chainsaws ...

All...except essential agricultural and transport machines.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FoolYap', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')he most simple, elegant, humane way to transition in to to a post oil future would be to sacrifice the machines first. This would be life affirming and would save much human suffering.

... chainsaws ...

All...except essential agricultural and transport machines.

[Homesteader]

The chainsaw is last on my list as well. I heat the house for about $10 a year tops. Wood is split by hand since it is only a couple of cords. Furnace hasn't been on in two years. Well. . . actually it broke two years ago and I didn't want to pay the hundreds of dollars to repair it so I could spend hundreds of dollars using it when I was surrounded by oak and hickory. We use a hand cart to transport the wood to the woodpile. The only other small engine is a stihl shoulder harness brush cutter, which gets used a couple of hours a year trimming up what the sheep didn't want.

Our little $60 push lawn mower we got from a pawn shop broke a couple of years ago. The solution for that was to gate off the far end of the driveway (gate cost about $69) and loose the sheep onto the lawn. I love leg of lamb! This years legs of lamb are running around as we speak.

IMO a great idea would be to outlaw lawn care products and the watering of lawns. Of course what westernized countries didn't use would be sopped up by developing countries so we are f**ked regardless, but I sure would enjoy the howls of outrage from all the homeowners and corporate nut jobs.

[lawnchair]

For the small flat part of my yard, a sharpened reel mower is a joy to use.

In the rocky bits, I scythe down the weeds with a nice "bow knife" from Lehman's.

I'm not chopping for firewood, yet. I cut up some brushwodd with a 20-year-old electric (nuclear) chainsaw.

I guess my 42-year-old rototiller comes under "agricultural". The 7hp engine on it is pretty near dead, but the rest of the beast is worth watching for a good Honda for it. The amount of work I get per ounce of gasoline? I'm sure I'd pay $40 a gallon.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')I also power my laptop... well sometimes using my solar powered back pack.

[MarkJames]

One of our heating fuel customers said I must spend a fortune on fuel for my boats, snowmobiles, quads and waverunners. I said since I don't use them that much, I probably use less fuel than they waste heating their home and driving their gas powered 4WD trucks and SUVs hundreds of miles per week.

We use our boats, snowmobiles, quads and waverunners for utility and emergency purposes as well as pleasure. Nothing beats a long track snowmobile for power, speed and versatility on snow, ice, frozen lakes and hills. I've buried my quads on the lakes while ice fishing or in the back woods while hunting or hauling in deep wet snow. Waverunners can go up the rivers and into the shallow bays and backwaters where outdrives, outboards and stern-drives would be destroyed by rocks and stumps. I use my quads for construction, plowing, hunting, hauling, moving trailers etc. Some of my toys are actually pretty efficient in comparison to my toys of the past.

When I was building my homes on the lakes, I used my boat as my floating office and a place to sleep, shower cook etc. Now I use my largest boat as more of a floating camper than for cruising, so I don't burn a lot of fuel. It's more efficient and economical for people to keep a boat at a marina than to build, heat and maintain second or third home on the lakes.

My diesel and gas powered equipment performs so much valuable work per gallon of fuel, that fuel at 10X the current price per gallon would be a bargain. In the near future I'll probably replace some of my gas powered equipment with diesel powered equipment since we have large bulk heating oil/kerosene/diesel storage.

[I_Like_Plants]

I have a small bore engine, I rode it into town yesterday. I'm going to a sort of funeral service on it today.

I expect that bike to last a LONG time, and that's the specific reason I bought that model.

Other than that, don't worry, the machines will die off before we do in the dieoff.

[DomusAlbion]

A worthy goal, seldom_seen.

However, you'll have to pry my chain saw from my cold dead hands!

I've got the tractor, compressor (oops that's electric) and mower (all essential ag type tools) but will soon be selling my diesel truck

[eastbay]

The factories will cease producing the feared machines before too long and the existing machines will break down long before we have to destroy them. There's absolutely nothing to be concerned about here.

Now move along...

[jedinvest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'T')he factories will cease producing the feared machines before too long and the existing machines will break down long before we have to destroy them. There's absolutely nothing to be concerned about here.

Now move along...

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', 'I')'m not chopping for firewood, yet. I cut up some brushwodd with a 20-year-old electric (nuclear) chainsaw.

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'C')ogito, ergo non satis bibivi