[Heineken]

Boulet, as I stated on the previous page, I really think the answer for you is a monastery, where you can simultaneously pursue your interests in spiritualism and agriculture. A remote monastery, where you can perhaps escape the worst of the coming events. This solution even appeals to me (sort of an agnostic) somewhat. I have my religious moments. I pray every night before dinner with my companion, who comes from deepest darkest missionary Africa. I don't reject religion per se, just the incredible misuse and abuse of it that surrounds us.

It could be a good life. Give it a shot.

[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DYBoulet', 'T')his plan is, quite simply, to work towards a more self-sufficient life. By this I mean, life of the farmer. Thankfully, I live in a rural area where there's plenty of land and ressources for me to become fairly sufficient, provided I am educated as to how to work with nature.

Becoming self-sufficient of course, takes time. I probably never will be 100% self-sufficient, but each year, I can take steps towards this ideal of self-sufficiency.

[Heineken]

It won't happen the way you say, Schadenfreude. It won't be an orderly process of the population returning to the land, driven there by high food prices etc.

There will be disorder and death---a shakeout of all the excess. Technology will crumble with the rest of it. The knowledge will remain in bits and pieces, but the tools will be broken, the purpose changed.

People can never live as they did in the 19th century because that world was by comparison pristine.

Our followers will be left with the leavings, and thin they will be.

[Fiddlerdave]

Move to Cuba for a few years, and get some experience in what may welll be the best of the New Peakoil World Order, since they have been getting some practice with a taste of it. Then you will be ready to go and be martyred reforming rhe rest of the world, most likely with the worst of the world's New Peakoil World Order, whose horrors I don't even care to describe, except it will make the Romans Jesus faced look good.

[Judgie]

The problem with economics, is that those who practice it, fail to understand that the "market" cannot respond if there is nothing with which to respond. We are seeing this now.

As for the originating poster, all I can say is to take one hour out of your time, and seriously think about who you are, who you want to be, how, and more importantly if you can get there (if you can't, then move to the next option, but make sure it's realistic, sensible and most importantly gives you more than one door to pass through if TSHTF for that particular option). If you have a significant other, make sure you include them in this 60 minutes of thought.

Hope that helps in some way.

Mike

[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('s0cks', 'A')s we live in a world of free speech I should be allowed to voice my opinion.

What is this God cr*p?

You should be glad you didn't get to priesthood. It would have only of held you back. To be free of religion is to be truely free. To know you are not being critized for every action you take is truely free. To know you make your own destiny is truely to be free.

And don't give me the "you should respect my...." line. I can do as i please. Just as I choose not to respect drug addicts.

Let go of your chains. Get onto your Plan B and go for it. Do not wait around wandering what God thinks, or what other people think. To be self-sustainable will be a huge satisfaction and freedom in itself.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.
-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', ' ')people will form large groups and pioneer adapted methods of industrialized agriculture.

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his plan is, quite simply, to work towards a more self-sufficient life.

[bobaloo]

Before the age of 20 I spent a lot of time worrying about what other people thought of me...

Between 20 and 40 I didn't give a damn what other people thought of me...

After age 40 I realized other people didn't really think of me all that often...

Do what you want to do. You're going to stumble and fail a few times, if you're lucky, and you'll learn from it. The saddest people are those that manage to put off their first great failure until late in life, it usually crushes them. Practice a few times when you're younger and you'll be much stronger.

[overlever]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobaloo', 'D')o what you want to do. You're going to stumble and fail a few times, if you're lucky, and you'll learn from it. The saddest people are those that manage to put off their first great failure until late in life, it usually crushes them. Practice a few times when you're younger and you'll be much stronger.