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The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:21:01

The necessary architecture may already be in place. On May 4 last year, the White House issued the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, key parts of which remain classified and hence shrouded from public view. The directive outlines procedures to respond to a “catastrophic emergency,” defined broadly as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.” Of course previous administrations also had emergency plans. But the Bush directive transfers power from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to the White House, where the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism is assigned the job of “National Continuity Coordinator”.

Even with this architecture in place, the Bush administration would need a trigger to declare a state of emergency. One can imagine several possible scenarios:

War with Iran - unfortunately, not so far-fetched. The National Intelligence Estimate released in December concluded that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program back in 2003. But when have Bush and Cheney ever based their foreign policy decisions on evidence? Moreover, the most important reason they want to attack Iran is to control the flow of oil through the Persian Gulf, nukes or no nukes.

The assassination of a presidential candidate. Obama evokes memories of JFK and Martin Luther King. The bullet could come from a lone racist, a terrorist, or an agent of a state. The threat is real. The Secret Service knows it and so should we.

A terrorist strike, on the scale of 9/11 or worse. Again, not so far-fetched. Bush and Cheney have been Osama bin Laden’s greatest recruiters, making the U.S. appear to be the enemy of millions across the world. Al Qaeda may consider that regime change in the U.S. is not in their interest.

With the right spin, any of these events might be construed as a “catastrophic emergency.” link
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:31:35

I'm not buying it.

We had elections after Robert Kennedy was killed in 1968. We had elections in the middle of the civil war. We had elections in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

The elections will neither be postponed nor canceled regardless of what happens. (short of nuclear war...which makes the outcome of the canceled election rather pointless, no?)

I'm not worried about and there is no need for anyone else to worry about it either.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:35:53

After your prediction that there "will be no 2008 elections" fails to come true, will you please explain why your predictions are always wrong?
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Ferretlover » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:44:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'T')he necessary architecture may already be in place. On May 4 last year, the White House issued the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, key parts of which remain classified and hence shrouded from public view. The directive outlines procedures to respond to a “catastrophic emergency,” defined broadly as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.” Of course previous administrations also had emergency plans. But the Bush directive transfers power from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to the White House, where the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism is assigned the job of “National Continuity Coordinator”. link

IMHO, I am not yet ruling out a coup d'etat by Bush/Cheney. Yes, I know I may be worrying needlessly, but, gosh darn it!, if that is Not what they have in mind, why all the Executive orders that pave the way for it?
Of course, I could be wrong..I am hoping Very Hard that I am...
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:46:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'T')he necessary architecture may already be in place. On May 4 last year, the White House issued the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, key parts of which remain classified and hence shrouded from public view. The directive outlines procedures to respond to a “catastrophic emergency,” defined broadly as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.” Of course previous administrations also had emergency plans. But the Bush directive transfers power from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to the White House, where the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism is assigned the job of “National Continuity Coordinator”. link
IMHO, I am not yet ruling out a coup d'etat by Bush/Cheney. Yes, I know I may be worrying needlessly, but, gosh darn it!, if that is Not what they have in mind, why all the Executive orders that pave the way for it? Of course, I could be wrong..I am hoping Very Hard that I am...

Yep, everything is in place.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby killJOY » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:52:24

Even if there's an election, there won't be an election.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Kingcoal » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 15:56:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A')fter your prediction that there "will be no 2008 elections" fails to come true, will you please explain why your predictions are always wrong?


Oh, come on now Pantagenet, that's asking a little too much! :x It interferes with freedom of religion.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 16:02:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A')fter your prediction that there "will be no 2008 elections" fails to come true, will you please explain why your predictions are always wrong?
Oh, come on now Pantagenet, that's asking a little too much! :x It interferes with freedom of religion.

:lol: I'm considering adding that to my signature. That was classic!

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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby AlCzervik » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 16:20:27

Armageddon, you are one of my favorite posters and see through a lot of bullshit in this world, but I don't buy it. First, I don't think Obama is really anti-establishment enough or JFK-like that he would be sacrificed for false flag purposes, though there are some saying he has challenged corporate America and they are fighting back.
Money Matters: Obama Campaign Going Down.

In fact, I think it just as likely that as Webster Tarpley recently said, Obama is supported by the shrewd softer power anti-Russian Brzezinski faction.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e immediately find that Obama's foreign policy is made by the Russia-hater Zbigniew Brzezinski of the Washington Center for Strategic and International Studies and the gray eminence of the Democratic Party foreign policy establishment. Brzezinski's enthusiastic endorsement of Obama and scornful rejection of Mrs. Clinton last summer was a turning point in the rise of the Illinois senator.

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In a related vein, I think the elites are now anti-neocon and not backing false flags or invasions of Iran at this point. The Iran NIE was evidence of that. I don't think Bush-Cheney can get what they want because people such as the Poppy Bush CIA faction have taken their toys away. If Bush-Cheney or even the Clintonistas have enough clout with the intelligence agencies to sacrifice Obama, then it is totally over. But at some level, they need the support of lackeys like McCain. And there is no way that guy would allow Bush/Cheney to take his presidency away.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 16:43:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'A')rmageddon, you are one of my favorite posters and see through a lot of bullshit in this world, but I don't buy it. First, I don't think Obama is really anti-establishment enough or JFK-like that he would be sacrificed for false flag purposes, though there are some saying he has challenged corporate America and they are fighting back. Money Matters: Obama Campaign Going Down.
In fact, I think it just as likely that as Webster Tarpley recently said, Obama is supported by the shrewd softer power anti-Russian Brzezinski faction.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e immediately find that Obama's foreign policy is made by the Russia-hater Zbigniew Brzezinski of the Washington Center for Strategic and International Studies and the gray eminence of the Democratic Party foreign policy establishment. Brzezinski's enthusiastic endorsement of Obama and scornful rejection of Mrs. Clinton last summer was a turning point in the rise of the Illinois senator.
Winnipeg Indymedia.
In a related vein, I think the elites are now anti-neocon and not backing false flags or invasions of Iran at this point. The Iran NIE was evidence of that. I don't think Bush-Cheney can get what they want because people such as the Poppy Bush CIA faction have taken their toys away. If Bush-Cheney or even the Clintonistas have enough clout with the intelligence agencies to sacrifice Obama, then it is totally over. But at some level, they need the support of lackeys like McCain. And there is no way that guy would allow Bush/Cheney to take his presidency away.

Thanks for the compliment. You may be right, because there really are many ways this could unfold. I also enjoy Tarpley, he is a great historian and really knows his stuff. I personally think Bush, Clinton and McCain are all in it together, and I wouldn't be surprised if Obama was too. With Brzezinski in his corner, he is no lame duck. The NWO is coming on strong, but it is hard to see who is their candidate of choice. I really thought they wanted Hillary vs Mccain at first, but that might not happen. The bankers are who run the world. They are the ones who Bush and Cheney take their orders from with the likes of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Chase etc. This article is the one of the best pieces I have ever read. It explains everything. link
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Ferretlover » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 17:03:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', ' ') I personally think Bush, Clinton and McCain are all in it together, and I wouldn't be surprised if Obama was too.


Together? That doesn't seem right. Unless the entire situation was something like the WWII underground-where there were many cells, but, they didn't know who else "was in the know." Each cell having its own handler, and the handlers having a handler, etc.

McCain certainly acts as though he got it "in the bag," doesn't he? Did you watch when Bush endorsed McCain. His body language was along the lines (as I perceived it) that it really didn't matter.

I really am hoping that 21 Jan 2009 proves me to be all wrong!
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby dinopello » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 17:26:43

Geez, the last thing Bush wants is to continue on as President. Have you seen how giddy he has been getting day by day ? At the endorsement ceremony for McCain he was literally dancing a jig.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby FoxV » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 18:56:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'E')ven with this architecture in place, the Bush administration would need a trigger to declare a state of emergency. One can imagine several possible scenarios:...

How about "All of the above"
A small yield nuke or dirty bomb goes off at the Obama celebration party. CIA intelligence identifies Iranian operatives in the US responsible for the bomb. Bush stops doing his jig and puts his neocon monkey leash back on. A state of emergency is declared, elections are suspended, Martial law is enacted, and Iran is invaded.
Until I see Obama's smiling face on the steps of the capital building, My bets are still for "Bush in '08"
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Ferretlover » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:00:25

You did notice that a "serious disruption in the economy" was one of the choices he had?...
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Pops » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:27:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'T')he necessary architecture may already be in place.

Ya know why don't you either address something remotely likely to happen or shut up?

The deal is there are quite a few problems impacting US citizens at a dinner-table, checkbook balance level right now and probably more to come.

Or is that too mundane for a message board?
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 20:16:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'T')he necessary architecture may already be in place.
Ya know why don't you either address something remotely likely to happen or shut up? The deal is there are quite a few problems impacting US citizens at a dinner-table, checkbook balance level right now and probably more to come. Or is that too mundane for a message board?

Go back to sleep.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Pops » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 20:47:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'G')o back to sleep.

Is everyone who doesn't subscribe to your opinion asleep?
Or perhaps it's just easier talk in your sleep than wake and do something?
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 20:51:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'G')o back to sleep.
Is everyone who doesn't subscribe to your opinion asleep? Or perhaps it's just easier talk in your sleep than wake and do something?

If you don't think it is remotely likely, then you are obviously sleeping. Do you remember the Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods or 911 ?
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Cloud9 » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 20:56:36

Relax buddy, the fix is in. Obama will be the next boy wonder.
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Re: The will be no 2008 elections

Unread postby Pops » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 21:17:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', 'I')f you don't think it is remotely likely, then you are obviously sleeping. Do you remember the Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods or 911 ?

Anything is likely, the deal is to rationally consider the various likelihoods and what we should do in the most likely scenario. Considering there have been many much more dire situations in the past and elections have mostly gone on as first envisioned I kinda think this one will as well.

Don't you think?
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