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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 21:55:26

I'm trying to say that I'd pick the first person I found who was qualified enough to do the job, regardless of appearance(if it had any influence at all, it would be nearly zero). I'd know what order the candidates were interviewed in by default of having interviewed them. I might even find the person wearing the ripped jeans to be more 'likable' by default of not being too concerned about maintaining appearances. He's there to do the job, not to ass-kiss to the boss.

As a side note, a con man can wear a fancy suit just the same as anyone else can. Someone being well-dressed merely tells me that they are well-dressed. It doesn't say anything else to me.

I realize in the real world, that people are not at all likely going to be inclined to select the way I would, for whatever reason. The guy with tattered jeans is less likely to get hired. To other people, dress does say something.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby JJ » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 21:57:25

I'll bet the CEOs taking the million dollar severance packages for the companies that they have raped aren't wearing jeans. They are probably respectable.

I wear new jeans and have a crew cut and glasses and look like a dork. Everyone thinks I am so nice. My opinion of myself is something else.

Bing has sewn up every hole in every pair of jeans I have. Some of them are truly amazing.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby eastbay » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 22:01:31

BigTex was asking what the choice would be if the ONLY thing you knew about the two applicants was the tattered jeans vs the untattered jeans.

Nothing else allowed. I think most would select the applicant with the untattered jeans. It's an easy choice.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby BigTex » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 22:13:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'B')igTex was asking what the choice would be if the ONLY thing you knew about the two applicants was the tattered jeans vs the untattered jeans.

Nothing else allowed. I think most would select the applicant with the untattered jeans. It's an easy choice.


And really, even if YOU are enlightened and would hire the guy wearing the leather g-string if he were most qualified, we're really talking about how others will react.

To me, the issue is how to make my way through this world with the least unnecessary resistance. There are people who like to do business with people whose clothes are not torn up. Therefore, I try to keep my clothes more or less intact.

A note to the khaki pants set while we're on the topic--switch to wool slacks and you will be amazed at how much better the whole pants experience can be. Good wool slacks will last AT LEAST 5 years without too much trouble and will look like new the whole time.

Wool is simply superior to cotton when it comes to pants.

Anyone who wants to argue, let's start a cotton vs. wool thread.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 22:34:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')igTex was asking what the choice would be if the ONLY thing you knew about the two applicants was the tattered jeans vs the untattered jeans.


I wouldn't know enough to make a decision then. Flip a coin...

But I suppose it also matters what kind of job it was. If it was for a sales position, then it would certainly be logical to pick the person who was better dressed where that attribute actually effects the outcome.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby WildRose » Tue 04 Mar 2008, 15:18:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'W')hen I was in high school one of the rules in the student handbook was that blue jeans had to be "completely in one piece."

Since I assume that every rule is in response to some violation at some point, I always wondered what the jeans that were in more than one piece looked like.

Perhaps it was cut-offs with just the bottom couple of inches of the severed pant legs pinned to the socks.


When I was in junior high school (grade 7), girls were not permitted to wear pants at all. This was in the early 70's. Of course, at that time all kinds of jean stores were popping up and the jeans were so cool (big flares, striped, bright colors, etc.). I protested by wearing jeans to school every day and was sent home to change nearly every day. By grade 8, the rule was changed, and girls could wear any pants, including jeans, that they desired.

At that time, jeans had to be ridiculously frayed at the bottom of the flare or they weren't cool. We went to great lengths to turn our brand new jeans into frayed ones!

I still wear clothes with holes in them sometimes. It turns out that they are always my favorites and I hate to part with them. Of course, for work I have to wear clothes that are in good repair.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby Ayoob » Tue 04 Mar 2008, 17:05:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', 'I')'m trying to say that I'd pick the first person I found who was qualified enough to do the job


Dumb.

You're saying you don't have the ability to choose well.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby Specop_007 » Tue 04 Mar 2008, 18:00:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m all for living a bit frugally.

However, I wont look like a shit eating bum in doing so.

Have at least a modicum of pride in your appearance man.

Do you realize there was a time when a man wasnt considered fully dressed if he wasnt wearing a hat? And I dont mean your favorite sportsteam ball cap, I mean a proper hat.

While I dont give much thought to a hole in the knee it sounds like your pants just scream "I'm a bum".


It appears ignorant for members of society to judge others on what they wear.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') wont need the sopabox anymore, someone else can use it now. But appearance is a bit of a pet peeve. At least act like you have a small, tiny amount of dignity and self respect.


I have enough dignity and self respect to realize that my clothes don't mean jack shit in regard to who or what I am.

I understand the importance of looking 'presentable' when the situation calls for it(eg. job interview, and to obtain said job), but I do not understand why people are so quick to judge others on appearances.

One of the most well-amnnered, intelligent, and dignified people I've ever had the pleasure to meet, was a morbidly obese man who rode around town on an antique bicycle in his underwear.

He ran a small business and it was quite a well known fact among the locals, hardly a bum.


I have to call bullshit. No one with any dignity is going to go riding their bike around town in their undies.
I wont argue intelligence. I've met some very well dressed dumbasses, and some slob genius's. I wont argue manners either. More often then not it seems the better dressed you are the more refined your manners are however the more critical you are of others.

I dont mean we should all dress in suits either. I really dont like wearing anything more fanvy then blue jeans. HOWEVER. I have enough dignity, I have enough self respect and I have enough motivation to not wear shitty clothes.

Its the exact same as someone with poor hygeine. If you cant be bothered to wash your damn hair once in a while I consider you a lazy stinkin bum. To a slightly lesser extent the same with your clothing. If you cant even be bothered to wear presentable clothes, why should I waste my time with you?

Obviously there are occasional exceptions. Gardening, mechanics and stuff. And obviously people wearing clothes for that task sometimes have to go out. But by and large people wearing bummy shitty clothes are doing so because they are lazy and lacking self respect.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Tue 04 Mar 2008, 20:18:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have to call bullshit. No one with any dignity is going to go riding their bike around town in their undies.


You can call bullshit, but it won't make you correct. I have no means to prove this to you and it would be too much effort anyway.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you cant even be bothered to wear presentable clothes, why should I waste my time with you?


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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Tue 04 Mar 2008, 21:23:01

Not only are my jeans frayed, ripped and holey, they're second hand. Either from St Vinnies or Good Will. We can afford new jeans, but why bother? There's work, dirty work to be done.

Actually, the wife did buy me a new pair of denim overalls. They're the best.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby lawnchair » Tue 04 Mar 2008, 22:52:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '
')Actually, the wife did buy me a new pair of denim overalls. They're the best.


Truer words never spoken. Found two pairs of made-in-America KEY (the Aristocrat of Overalls!), my size, tags still on, for $5 a pair at Goodwill two years ago. The Gods indeed smiled.
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Re: Do you wear ripped jeans?

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Wed 05 Mar 2008, 01:03:41

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