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Do you love America?

Unread postby Cynus » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 20:35:39

I'm actually only interested in hearing from posters who answer "yes" and what their reasons are. (If someone wants to start another post called "why do you hate America" for America-haters to post their reasons, that would be OK.)
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby gollum » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 20:54:18

Love our country, especially the rich history. Dont have any use for the government.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby Micki » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:04:52

I'll take some middle ground again.
Worked in Waukesha Wisconsin a month quite a few years ago and the people I worked with were terrific. They took me out for dinners, baseball game, brewery tour, traditional fish fry and a party at some dudes place. It was just great and I felt so at home I could have stayed. (The only other place where I felt people were as genuinly hospitable was Mexico. Sure they have been very nice in SE Asia as well but sometimes it is hard to read the hearts of these people.)
So I guess I was lucky meeting just the nice people and there is another side to the coin that I haven't seen. But overall my impressions on site were great.

The political leadership is however another story...and most people here know my position on that. But in my heart I believe the strings are pulled by people who don't consider themselves American and don't care Americans more than they do for sweatshop workers in Mumbai or Guanzhou. The rest of the leadership will greedily carry out orders to get their reward.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby Pops » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:23:18

Well, yea I do.

Mostly because my ancestors have been here for a couple hundred years or more, not been killed off to much, nor taken advantage of more than they allowed, and had as much opportunity to get ahead as they wanted to exercise.

Besides ya gotta love the land of milk and honey when there is always some more land to the west with more...
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby PopeGideon » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:50:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'I')'m actually only interested in hearing from posters who answer "yes" and what their reasons are. (If someone wants to start another post called "why do you hate America" for America-haters to post their reasons, that would be OK.)


Then why don't you retitle the thread, "Tell me why you love America", or, alternatively, "Why you love America."
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 21:57:22

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

This is one damn good place to live. So much physical beauty and variety and we've still got that Yankee "can do" spirit (well, a lot of us). I truly love it. My mother's side of the family have been here for centuries (even longer if you count the native blood), dad's parents were immigrants in the last century. It didn't work out as well for them, but all their kids did well.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby roccman » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 22:06:58

Sure - what other place can you live where you can blow your entire paycheck on payday at a strip club and still have food to eat and a roof over your head...
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby americandream » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 22:25:50

The America of the Redman must have been awesome. The continent has been sadly overrun with mediocrity with the advent of modernism...as has most of this planet.

I often wonder which is preferable, the high probability of few decades at most on a pristine but Darwinian planet, or the increasingly lean possibility of a lifetime to geriatric angst on a polluted planet that pretends to have moved beyond Darwinism.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby mos6507 » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 22:37:15

Cid Yama need not post here.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 22:39:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he America of the Redman must have been awesome. The continent has been sadly overrun with mediocrity with the advent of modernism...as has most of this planet.


I couldn't disagree with you more. I grew up in the west and I've lived in the east and I've probably seen most of it. It is still grand and beautiful. Of course I've deliberately avoided certain places that I knew were a mess, such as Baltimore, DC and Las Vegas, ...
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby Cloud9 » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 23:16:01

I love this country because it is the future of my family. My fathers are buried in its earth. I will be buried in its earth. My sons will be buried in its earth. Each of us, all of us will do what ever it takes to nurture it, sustain it and protect it.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby billp » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 23:28:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')ach of us, all of us will do what ever it takes to nurture it, sustain it and protect it.


Try working on the US legal system.

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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby Bas » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 23:44:49

I used to.

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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby Cloud9 » Fri 29 Feb 2008, 23:54:36

When you seek justice, you find that it is just us. The legal system is not the country. The people are the country.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby frankthetank » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 00:25:10

Yes. Like many of us have discovered, no place on earth is perfect. I love everything about Wisconsin except for the temperatures :)

I don't agree with parts of the system, like way to much money spent on military adventures.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby catbox » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 01:04:54

I have no experience living anywhere else. I have been many places iin the US but nothing beats the NW. All sorts of freaky people, healthy eats, beautiful scenery, great cycling, and friendly folks. I do love this part of America, and ok...some parts of the rest of it. But in the end...like the bumper stickers says, "I love my country, it's the government I can't stand!" haha....

I often think I would love living out of the country...my interests in cycling, art, and soccer don't exactly jive with the American male gig here!

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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby steam_cannon » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 01:24:15

American can be alright... Depends on where you're sitting I guess.
The front page of one of todays newspapers on my desk reads:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]More then 1% of Americans behind bars

For the first time in US History, more then 1 of every 100 adults is in jail or prison.

more then any other nation...

cost... $49 Billion...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'L')ove our country, especially the rich history.
Dont have any use for the government.
Yeah, we had a great history...

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Would any of these men would be electable today?
I'm just saying, we live in a very different country
then what "America" was founded on.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'S')ure - what other place can you live where you can blow your entire
paycheck on payday at a strip club and still have food to eat and a
roof over your head...
In Ukraine a strip club is a pretty normal place to take a date. :lol:
Not what my wifes into, but ya know the rest of the world is a
lot less uptight. I could walk down the street in Ukraine and drink a beer,
and not be arrested. That felt nice.

I'm not saying I "hate America", but even a small taste of freedom
makes so many other things seem trivial.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby americandream » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 02:53:17

It depends on what you mean as well.

I for one love every corner of my planet...the fact that it's incrementally being reduced to rubble and trash by incompetent government and deluded society does not detract from the fact that it's a wonderful place. And America is truly splendid along with the rest.
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby Dukkha » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 09:37:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('catbox', 'I') have no experience living anywhere else. cb


That's an interesting point. To what extent does a lack of exposure to other nations/cultures devalue partiotism? How much does a 'valid' patriotism depend upon being able to make an intelligent, informed comparison between cultures?
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Re: Do you love America?

Unread postby green_achers » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 15:22:47

I love America because it's part of the Earth, and I love the Earth. I am particularly attached to a few small patches of it that I call or have called Home.
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