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THE Tin Foil Hat Thread (merged)

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 01:41:58

I wonder how the tinfoil hat relates to whatever conspiracy he believes.

Other than looking stupid and entertaining others, I wonder what benefit the tinfoil is supposed to provide?
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 01:45:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I')'m not sure what the purpose of tinfoil hats is, but is there an ideal coverage area? Are ear covers useful? What about a baseball cap-style bill. Would that help?

I assume that a tinfoil visor would not be useful.

I guess the idea is to have some kind of barrier to electromagnetic energy or maybe low levels of radiation. OTOH, wouldn't the tinfoil make it harder for the brain to cool itself? As I understand, optimal brain functioning occurs within a very limited temperature range. Wouldn't the reflection of the radiant heat off the head actually make a person able to think LESS clearly?

I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the tinfoil hat thing, and its intended purpose.



uhm, the reason they put it on to begin with I believe had to do with not being able to think clearly to begin with
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 01:49:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I')'m not sure what the purpose of tinfoil hats is, but is there an ideal coverage area? Are ear covers useful? What about a baseball cap-style bill. Would that help?

I assume that a tinfoil visor would not be useful.

I guess the idea is to have some kind of barrier to electromagnetic energy or maybe low levels of radiation. OTOH, wouldn't the tinfoil make it harder for the brain to cool itself? As I understand, optimal brain functioning occurs within a very limited temperature range. Wouldn't the reflection of the radiant heat off the head actually make a person able to think LESS clearly?

I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the tinfoil hat thing, and its intended purpose.



uhm, the reason they put it on to begin with I believe had to do with not being able to think clearly to begin with


Hmm, so it might be hard to measure any benefit the tinfoil hat is providing, since there may not be much a baseline to compare it to.

Kind of like trying to measure the benefits of putting leaches on sick people.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 01:52:38

Since aluminum is dangerous to the system I would advise a pre-wrap with waxed paper head to toe, and then a total body tin foil wrap.
This eliminates any rap music at the 100 megahertz frequencies from giving you nightmares.

Get it?

Wrap prevents Rap

You know it is true.

No one wants to microwave you, you are insignificant.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby SchroedingersCat » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 01:55:37

It seems to me that a tinfoil hat might actually act as an antenna, actually amplifying any effects of RF bombardment. The rumor that it blocks mid control signals was probably started by the CIA in order to gain greater control over those who might suspect the truth.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 02:01:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SchroedingersCat', 'I')t seems to me that a tinfoil hat might actually act as an antenna, actually amplifying any effects of RF bombardment. The rumor that it blocks mid control signals was probably started by the CIA in order to gain greater control over those who might suspect the truth.


Intuitively, I was feeling the same thing. It seems like it could do more harm than good (in addition to making you look crazy).
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby underdressed » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 10:32:34

The tin foil hat is supposed to act as a Faraday cage, sort of. Too bad it would act like an antenna attracting gov't/alien ??? beams or radiation. (Which beams or radiation? Ask the loonies because I think each has a different insane idea of what's being sent at them.)

I prefer the 5-book hat. There are no metals involved to attract signals and the information in the books blocks unwanted information. You could choose what is blocked and what is allowed by simply selecting books on different topics.

Cut away view of 5-book hat for stick people: |¯|
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For those who absolutely must have tin foil, the 5-book hat can be wrapped in it. . . but that's just crazy.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Arkwright » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:06:28

:D
For real style in tinfoil, there are even commercial products:
http://www.handy-fashions.com/
Though they are made for the purpose of preventing radiation from mobile-phones, so the functionality against mind-control rays and telepathic attacks is questionable. For those purposes, the cunning plan is to stack several layers of thick tinfoil inside a normal hat, then they wont know that you know that their control doesnt work, what an andvantage!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby JJ » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:13:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SchroedingersCat', 'I')t seems to me that a tinfoil hat might actually act as an antenna, actually amplifying any effects of RF bombardment. The rumor that it blocks mid control signals was probably started by the CIA in order to gain greater control over those who might suspect the truth.


snopes will probably expose this to be the urban legend it is, started by RJ Reynolds....
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:23:56

It is impossible to be microwaved while you are scuba diving. All conferences should be done in the "Seaview".
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:26:20

Scientists at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, are working on a new way to fire a warning shot: with a blast of 95GHz millimetre-wave directed energy. It doesn't kill, but it hurts: a beam rapidly heats up the skin to produce a sensation of "intolerable pain". (This is off the internet go google it)

It works.
They run it at 95 gigahertz and 1-2 megawatts. Ouch.

Aluminum skin covering would prevent pain.

if you don't believe it, just build one.

Design of a 7 MW, GHz, three-cavity gyroklystron
Arjona, M.R.; Lawson, W.
High-Power Particle Beams, 1998. BEAMS apos;98. Proceedings of the 12th International Conference on
Volume 2, Issue , 1998 Page(s):683 - 686 vol.2
Digital Object Identifier 10.1109/BEAMS.1998.816945
Summary:In this paper we present a three cavity design of a gyroklystron at 95 GHz. We present the design of the magnetron injection gun (MIG), the magnetic field coils, and the three-cavity microwave circuit. The MIG produces a 500 kV, 30-70 A small-orbit annular beam with an average perpendicular-to-parallel velocity ratio of 1.5 and a parallel velocity spread below 5%. The MIG requires a control anode with a voltage of about 65 kV, a magnetic compression of about 30, and a cathode loading near 10 A/cm2. The circuit magnetic field is about 28.7 kG. The microwave circuit has a first-harmonic TE011 input cavity which is driven at 47.5 GHz, and second-harmonic TE021 buncher and output cavities which are resonant at 95 GHz. A peak power of 7.56 MW is obtained with 51.6 dB gain and 33.6% efficiency. A complete description of the system is presented along with a systematic study of the sensitivity of the device to parametric variations


What can you do if you resist the BORG and move to the woods in a cabin?

First off, build all cabins with metal roofs (good for fire anyway) and sheet then with aluminum/foam insulation sheets and tape the corners with aluminum. it must be seemless, and there should be a few extra aluminum/foam 4x8 sheets standing around to put up and cover the door and window from inside.
no problem, no microwaves.

simpler, just stand behind and aluminum/foam insulation sheet, simple, have a few leaning against the wall behind the couch.

they are great for insulating too, so it doesnt look suspicious, you are just in a building project.


use 3/4, it is more durable but costs a bit more

and just keep a few rolls of tinfoil around, you probably will never need it, but they are good for other things too.


you can also build a "coffin" with a lid to get in and hide in there until all the computers and solar panels and electronics have been demolished and they go home.

Or you could completely have a safe room (closet), sheeted with this foam/aluminum insulastion sheets, and the inside of the door with overlap. this is cheapest and most secure. floor and ceiling must be covered.

A large reflector box will send back to the source and operator this beam.

reflector boxes are the corner of a square metal box. (can make one by buying a sheet of 3/4 inch foam sheet with aluminum on each side (home depot) cutting three iright angle triangles and forming them into a corner, with each of the three 90 degree corners meeting, and tape together with aluminum tape. Now you have a weapon, it reflects ALL microwaves back at precisly the incidence angle.

Course then they probably just send a laws rocket through your wall if they think you have a beam weapon..

tape the coreners inside with aluminum tape. this will make a reflector box big enough to squat behind and it will send back all the sigs in your area to exactly the same point it came from no matter which way it is turned.

These are cool, if you leave them laying around outside your house pointing up, be assured the satelliteds will definitly notice them as an infinitly bright spot. and will haze out anything within a quarter mile so that no mapping can be done.

and if you stand behind it you feel no pain.

The average Joe? They probably just shoot you instead, only the important ones get the expensive treatment.

You will notice all shills always talk in a joking manner of "beam weapons" as if they are crazy.

They are the primary weapon they will use to round up everyone, since shooting will cause a revolution. They plan on using them very heavily everywhere. wait and see.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby highlander » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:59:39

This is serious stuff folks. Don't be kidding around!

http://www.diatribune.com/mit-study-fin ... a-trackers
This is where everybody puts profound words written by another...or not so profound words written by themselves
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby PhebaAndThePilgrim » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:05:48

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
The original use for tinfoil hats was to keep aliens from using certain wavelengths to control and penetrate your brain.
The foil hat prevents the wavelengths from getting to your brain, thus keeping you safe and preventing you from becoming an alien zombie.
Of course, what if the wavelengths the aliens are sending are not hurtful, but helpful, then wearing the tinfoil hat doesn't help anything.
Seems to me that we have more to fear from our fellow homo-sapiens than we do any alien.
I have the following bumper sticker on my car:
Buckle up, it makes it harder for aliens to suck you from your car.
I watch too much X-Files.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:14:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Phebagirl', 'G')ood day from Pheba, from the farm:
The original use for tinfoil hats was to keep aliens from using certain wavelengths to control and penetrate your brain.
The foil hat prevents the wavelengths from getting to your brain, thus keeping you safe and preventing you from becoming an alien zombie.
Of course, what if the wavelengths the aliens are sending are not hurtful, but helpful, then wearing the tinfoil hat doesn't help anything.
Seems to me that we have more to fear from our fellow homo-sapiens than we do any alien.
I have the following bumper sticker on my car:
Buckle up, it makes it harder for aliens to suck you from your car.
I watch too much X-Files.
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Actually not

Aliens / tinfoil hats and loonies are all area 52 disinformation
1. there are no aliens
2. tinfoil does reflect microwaves (have to know how to use it)
3. there will be a use of Beam weapons despite all the disinformation programming going on. It is simple to defend against that is why they want to make it silly.

Proof:
Look up any of the shills on this site, do a search, and they have mentioned TINFOIL and ALIENS several times.
Its in the disinformation packet.


the original use of tinfoil hats was a disinformation campaign to make everyone percieve them as looney ideas

No red neck is going to start shooting if they get a "beam" from your local ex-football team small town officer with an IQ of 85.

and it really hurts, so they go quietly.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:22:04

Golem sees a lot, Though he is a bit programmed, no aliens exist.) But this too shall pass along with oil and the failure of spaceship appearances..

For goodness sake, everyone in the world has a microwave oven, they are cheap and effective. Why wouldn't they make and use them for peaceful reasons? check it out.
The paranoid ones are usually the ones that got hit by one.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:34:14

It would be far less comfortable for the paranoid person to wear, but it seems to me that a lead hat would actually offer quite a bit more protection.

For the belt and suspenders set, I would think that one of those lead smocks you wear when you are getting X-rays would also be useful in blocking offensive beams and energy.

Maybe a defense contractor could come up with an all in one bulletproof, X-ray, and electromagnetic barrier vest that is comfortable enough for all day wear.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:39:40

Lead is for particle radiation and xray and cosmic, like a gamma ray box. You cant carry enough lead to be effective for those things.
Aluminum works fine for microwaves, it is diamagnetic.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:52:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Flowerr', 'L')ead is for particle radiation and xray and cosmic, like a gamma ray box.
They won't use that on you, you are too isignificant and if the average law enforcer used it, they would probably kill themselves. That is super special ops stuff. Dont worry about it.

We are talking of rounding up the lemmings who drink beer and watch MTV who are basically rednecks with an attitude. When the TV and solar panels destruct and your skin is on fire, you will drop your beer can and leave the house.


Speak for yourself. I am very significant, and I expect TPTB to use their finest technology on me.

But it sounds like I may need to wrap my lead hat and apron in tin foil just to be safe.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby eric_b » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:55:55

You need to be careful with the hat, sometimes it can be disguised as the thing itself.

http://emotiv.com/corporate/2_0/2_3.htm
http://finance.myway.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt ... e=20080220

You don't want the implantable transponder version of the first link... you don't have much privacy after that procedure. :)

Computer interpretation of brainwaves has come a long way baby. It be done both remotely and using implants. It'll be interesting to see what sort of new computer interfaces will be around in 10 years.

Already in the early 90's they were able to interpret many sub vocalized thoughts using a standard EEG setup.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/15/8738

More on these new 'tin foil' technologies.
http://www.well.com/user/jmalloy/gunter ... urces.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1& ... /19/238209
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Styles

Unread postby Flowerr » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 12:57:24

You can buy a mind/game controller now.
it straps on your head and you can play games with it.
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