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FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 09:35:44

The Twelve Steps

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')rof Roubini is even fonder of lists than I am. Here are his 12 - yes, 12 - steps to financial disaster.

Step one is the worst housing recession in US history. House prices will, he says, fall by 20 to 30 per cent from their peak, which would wipe out between $4,000bn and $6,000bn in household wealth. Ten million households will end up with negative equity and so with a huge incentive to put the house keys in the post and depart for greener fields. Many more home-builders will be bankrupted.

Step two would be further losses, beyond the $250bn-$300bn now estimated, for subprime mortgages. About 60 per cent of all mortgage origination between 2005 and 2007 had "reckless or toxic features", argues Prof Roubini. Goldman Sachs estimates mortgage losses at $400bn. But if home prices fell by more than 20 per cent, losses would be bigger. That would further impair the banks' ability to offer credit.

Step three would be big losses on unsecured consumer debt: credit cards, auto loans, student loans and so forth. The "credit crunch" would then spread from mortgages to a wide range of consumer credit.

Step four would be the downgrading of the monoline insurers, which do not deserve the AAA rating on which their business depends. A further $150bn writedown of asset-backed securities would then ensue.

Step five would be the meltdown of the commercial property market, while step six would be bankruptcy of a large regional or national bank.

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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown-even worse

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 11:29:42

What happens when you add to Prof Roubini's scenario the loss of the abundant cheap energy and the abundant cheap resources derived from it that our economy needs to live and grow?
The battle to preserve our lifestyle has already been lost. The battle to preserve our lives is just beginning.
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby Fishman » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 12:07:35

I think the term is:
TSHTF
Alternatively:
TEOTWAWKI

I'm presently reading a book by Larry Burkett written in the early 90's about runnaway government spending and the consequences.
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 12:27:43

I think you have to Roubini with a grain of salt. He has predicted 12 out of the last 6 recessions! ; - )
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby aflurry » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 13:08:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') think you have to Roubini with a grain of salt. He has predicted 12 out of the last 6 recessions! ; - )


can you elaborate? which 6 and which 12?
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 14:57:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') think you have to Roubini with a grain of salt. He has predicted 12 out of the last 6 recessions! ; - )


In all fairness we here at PO.com have predicted several of the last 0 collapses of civilization. Doesn't mean we won't eventually be right.
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby sittinguy » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 17:04:23

BRING,,,ON,,,,THE ,,,DOOM
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby Concerned » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 17:34:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') think you have to Roubini with a grain of salt. He has predicted 12 out of the last 6 recessions! ; - )


In all fairness we here at PO.com have predicted several of the last 0 collapses of civilization. Doesn't mean we won't eventually be right.


Exactly. I think I read this or something similar on PO.com

The last mole they cut out was not cancerous this new mole is similarly no problem.

I think it's fair to say that from 1990 when the USA was gushing about a "new world order" and "the end of history" after the collapse of the USSR events have changed significantly.

Iraq even put to bed talk of the US being a hyperpower the term superpower is used less. (Note: The US could subdue Iraq mind you just might mean killing a bunch more people probably with nukes, I'd call that more terror power and Armageddon)
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Re: FT: 12 Steps to Financial Meltdown

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 05:42:04

There is a clear difference between winning a war and enforcing the peace. Especially in countries that are busy fighting their own internal civil wars. Besides it is probably not good policy to start a war unless you're prepared to win it with or without collateral damage.
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