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Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of beef

Postby billg » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 14:18:55

I thought this kind of thing happened all the time...I'm surprised we finally noticed.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')uge Beef Recall Issued As Result of Video Footage

by Victoria Kim and Mitchell Landsberg
The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced the largest beef recall in its history Sunday, calling for the destruction of 143 million pounds of raw and frozen beef produced by a Chino slaughterhouse that has been accused of inhumane practices.However, the USDA said the vast majority of the meat involved in the recall — including 37 million pounds that went mostly to schools — probably has been eaten already. Officials emphasized that danger to consumers was minimal.

The recall applies to beef slaughtered at the Hallmark/Westland Meat Packing Co. since Feb. 1, 2006. The company has produced no meat since Feb. 4 of this year, when operations were suspended.

The action came nearly three weeks after the Humane Society of the United States released a video showing workers at the plant using forklifts and water hoses, among other methods, to rouse cattle too weak to walk. In addition to issues of animal cruelty, the video raised questions about whether so-called downer cattle were entering the food chain in violation of federal regulations.

Although the Humane Society said at least four non-ambulatory cattle had been slaughtered for food, the USDA had repeatedly said it had no such evidence. On Sunday, federal officials said for the first time that they had evidence such cattle from Hallmark had been processed for food.


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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby gampy » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 14:29:35

I have seen videos and reports of slaughterhouses all over the world taking in sick and half-dead animals. The transport kills these poor creatures. Dehydrated, heat-stroke, or hypothermia, stressed and anxious.

Some animals show up with lesions and open sores, ulcers, etc.

I hope they go after the actual producers, instead of the abattoirs, and processors. These animals are raised in horrible conditions. Pumped full of hormones, and antibiotics, as long as the animal is half-alive, they will get paid for it.

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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby evilgenius » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 14:36:13

I don't eat beef in America. The mad cow controls in America are so low you could say they don't exist.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 15:52:13

This was on the news in Seattle about two weeks ago. The Seattle School District was apparently getting their beef from there. Oops. The thing that surprised me was that they interviewed the president of the processing company and he said something like "We're shocked and appalled by this video. We're going to take steps to make sure this never happens again in our plant." I was surprised he didn't deny it or try to weasel around it. Not that I expect they will actually change anything except being more careful to keep out people with cameras. Still it was astonishing to hear a corporate hack tell the truth for a second.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby kadoomsoon » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 16:10:35

If he is honest, he will be out of business soon.

anyway, A rancher in this area said he should to sell them under 3 years before they can develop the symptoms of mad desease. It takes three years to show up. if they are down already he should bury them with his back hoe. He doesn't want to get shut down, who does? If he were honest, he would already be shut down.

It only took two or three nation wide beef shutdowns to teach the ranchers that you "just don't report it, are you crazy?"
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 16:19:54

How does Real ID play into all of this? I know small-time ranchers are on the hook for ID'ing their animals (ostensibly to prevent mad cow; nevermind that it's largely a processing plant concern), but this seems like it will be another volley for instituting/enforcing livestock identification plans.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby PrairieMule » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:08:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'I') have seen videos and reports of slaughterhouses all over the world taking in sick and half-dead animals. The transport kills these poor creatures. Dehydrated, heat-stroke, or hypothermia, stressed and anxious.

Some animals show up with lesions and open sores, ulcers, etc.

I hope they go after the actual producers, instead of the abattoirs, and processors. These animals are raised in horrible conditions. Pumped full of hormones, and antibiotics, as long as the animal is half-alive, they will get paid for it.


I'll never forget what a real eye opener to visit one of these feed lots and watch the bulldozers build giant mountains of manure.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'B')uy local people. Don't buy from supermarkets. Buy from butchers who can tell you where the meat was raised.


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That's my aim post peak or within the next 5-8 years is to raise as close as I can to true organic beef . No steroids, no feedlots, geneticly modified corn or undue stress. It means lower market yeilds but a better steak. I'm still up in the air regarding vaccinations, as is the FDA. I cant seem to find how vaccinations, medications, or antibiotics play into what is defined as organic. Occasionally I see a steer with a gouged eye. To deny antibiotics or cremes for dry socket is cruel. So I'm on the fence with "100%" Organic.

As more of this occurs, I see good way to make a living providing quality meats as opposed to gulag beef of cage raised frankenchickens.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:46:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'H')ow does Real ID play into all of this? I know small-time ranchers are on the hook for ID'ing their animals


You're thinking of the National Animal Id System (NAIS). They ended up making NAIS a voluntary system so that nobody has to participate. I don't see that this would be likely to cause it's resurrection. Certainly more mad cow or a bird flu outbreak could do it.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 17:57:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'H')ow does Real ID play into all of this? I know small-time ranchers are on the hook for ID'ing their animals


You're thinking of the National Animal Id System (NAIS). They ended up making NAIS a voluntary system so that nobody has to participate. I don't see that this would be likely to cause it's resurrection. Certainly more mad cow or a bird flu outbreak could do it.


Mea culpa. :oops: Yes, NAIS is the one. Unfortunately, my dad volunteered his farm for the program as it was "strongly suggested" through one of the local ag-extension seminars. :x
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby PrairieMule » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:43:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'H')ow does Real ID play into all of this? I know small-time ranchers are on the hook for ID'ing their animals


You're thinking of the National Animal Id System (NAIS). They ended up making NAIS a voluntary system so that nobody has to participate. I don't see that this would be likely to cause it's resurrection. Certainly more mad cow or a bird flu outbreak could do it.


Mea culpa. :oops: Yes, NAIS is the one. Unfortunately, my dad volunteered his farm for the program as it was "strongly suggested" through one of the local ag-extension seminars. :x


Your dad is in Oklahoma right? Wow! I knew they were pushing it hard here in Texas but not in Oklahoma. Just one more cost to factor against the rancher's bottom line.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby emersonbiggins » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 18:53:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'H')ow does Real ID play into all of this? I know small-time ranchers are on the hook for ID'ing their animals


You're thinking of the National Animal Id System (NAIS). They ended up making NAIS a voluntary system so that nobody has to participate. I don't see that this would be likely to cause it's resurrection. Certainly more mad cow or a bird flu outbreak could do it.


Mea culpa. :oops: Yes, NAIS is the one. Unfortunately, my dad volunteered his farm for the program as it was "strongly suggested" through one of the local ag-extension seminars. :x


Your dad is in Oklahoma right? Wow! I knew they were pushing it hard here in Texas but not in Oklahoma. Just one more cost to factor against the rancher's bottom line.
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Yep, I remember him saying that most attendees were none too happy about it, either, but the OSU ag-extension agent was quick to try and assuage fears about it, even alluding to the foregone "fact" that it would become mandatory one day, and better to get it out of the way now. Ugh. :x
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby jasonraymondson » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:27:24

I built (developed) this site back in 2000 for some clients, other than a few minor changes to text and new products it is pretty well the same site.

http://grasslandbeef.com/

They do purely organic beef, I visited their farms and all of their animals at the time looked real healthy, and the steaks they brought us tasted like heaven. They are located in northeast missouri.


Of course, I should point out... it is like $19.00 a pound for new york strip
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby PrairieMule » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:57:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') built (developed) this site back in 2000 for some clients, other than a few minor changes to text and new products it is pretty well the same site.

http://grasslandbeef.com/

They do purely organic beef, I visited their farms and all of their animals at the time looked real healthy, and the steaks they brought us tasted like heaven. They are located in northeast missouri.


Very informative. Thanks.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'O')f course, I should point out... it is like $19.00 a pound for new york strip


Wow! At $19.00 a pound, I would expect that to include a baked potato, a smile, and endless refills of ice tea. The ribeyes are $15 and thats only if you buy in bulk.

Best steaks I ever had was at Texas A&M Pasture management confrence.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby Ayoob » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 20:25:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')his was on the news in Seattle about two weeks ago. The Seattle School District was apparently getting their beef from there. Oops. The thing that surprised me was that they interviewed the president of the processing company and he said something like "We're shocked and appalled by this video. We're going to take steps to make sure this never happens again in our plant." I was surprised he didn't deny it or try to weasel around it. Not that I expect they will actually change anything except being more careful to keep out people with cameras. Still it was astonishing to hear a corporate hack tell the truth for a second.


Next time you drag a live human fetus out of a womb and slam its head against the sidewalk, think of this thread.

You kill human beings for a living.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 20:53:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'N')ext time you drag a live human fetus out of a womb and slam its head against the sidewalk, think of this thread.

You kill human beings for a living.


LOL! Quite an active imagination you have there Ayoob. I think the point of this thread would be to make sure that you don't eat the downer fetuses because they might have prions. I wasn't really planning on doing that, so I should be ok.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby jasonraymondson » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 21:58:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') built (developed) this site back in 2000 for some clients, other than a few minor changes to text and new products it is pretty well the same site.

http://grasslandbeef.com/

They do purely organic beef, I visited their farms and all of their animals at the time looked real healthy, and the steaks they brought us tasted like heaven. They are located in northeast missouri.


Very informative. Thanks.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'O')f course, I should point out... it is like $19.00 a pound for new york strip


Wow! At $19.00 a pound, I would expect that to include a baked potato, a smile, and endless refills of ice tea. The ribeyes are $15 and thats only if you buy in bulk.

Best steaks I ever had was at Texas A&M Pasture management confrence.



I have been to a few places where a new york strip costs $100 and up. Of course you really get great ambiance and clean silverware and opposed to my place where you get yelling and yellow forks, but hey I am happy :(
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 22:40:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') have been to a few places where a new york strip costs $100 and up. Of course you really get great ambiance and clean silverware and opposed to my place where you get yelling and yellow forks, but hey I am happy :(


Crimey. Maybe $600 you could buy an entire steer. You'd get a heck of a lot more than 6 steaks out of it.
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby jasonraymondson » Tue 19 Feb 2008, 22:52:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'I') have been to a few places where a new york strip costs $100 and up. Of course you really get great ambiance and clean silverware and opposed to my place where you get yelling and yellow forks, but hey I am happy :(


Crimey. Maybe $600 you could buy an entire steer. You'd get a heck of a lot more than 6 steaks out of it.



Try getting Kobe beef at the same place * now your talking crazy prices. 200 - 300 per 8 oz cut
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 00:58:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'T')ry getting Kobe beef at the same place * now your talking crazy prices. 200 - 300 per 8 oz cut

Call it whatever you want, the cows don't speak Japanese. I'll take a the whole steer for $600. You can keep your two puny steaks. :razz:
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Re: Activist video leads to recall of 143 million lbs of bee

Postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 01:15:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', 'I') don't eat beef in America. The mad cow controls in America are so low you could say they don't exist.


Oh give me a break, you hyopchondriac! You're more likely to win $100mil from the lotto than you are to get mad cow disease. You're probably the same type of person who is affraid to touch door knobs due to fear of germs.

you people worry way too fucking much. "oh no. There's a 1 in 600million chance that I might get mad cow disease. I should stop eating beef." Stop worrying so much.

I eat rare steak all the time and I don't care if I get sick. If I get sick and die, then I deserved it for having inferior genes and a weak immune system. If the bacteria/virus wins, then good for them. The victor should receive the rewards.
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