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TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 21:14:46

Tonight (Sunday), the Nat Geo Channel @ 8pm.
(about the changes expected as the planet heats up)
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 23:12:09

We might even be able to grow fruit in Greenland again. And sail through the Arctic like the Vikings did in open boats and map the coast of Alaska again.....They will be growing grapes in England again.....

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To understand the history of human occupation in this region, one must understand the climatic changes which took place over time along the coast of North America. The native peoples who lived in these areas seem to have adapted, moved, or disappeared with the ebb and flow of the shifting climate.

In the past archeologists explained culture change almost exclusively in terms of migration. Today migration is still acknowledged as an important cause of culture change, but archeologists ask questions about why movements of people occurred and what their consequences were. Interpreting the cause of culture change is always a difficult task. However, combining information from different sources like archeology, history, climate and vegetation history, sea-ice studies, and even studies of insect and beetle remains helps scientists understand the past.



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There is no question that the Norse migrated from their homelands in Scandinavia and the British Isles into the North Atlantic islands. The last stage of this movement, to Greenland, occurred at the end of the 10th century. Two hundred years later, either in northern Greenland or adjacent Helluland, the Norse met the eastward-moving Thule people, whose homeland only a century or less earlier had been the Bering Strait region in Alaska. It now appears that both of these movements had a common cause.

For many years it has been thought that climatic warming that began about A.D. 800 and continued until about A.D. 1300 facilitated Viking expansion and the establishment of thriving farming settlements in Greenland. This same warm period, which was probably five or six degrees (ºF) warmer than the present, was strongly felt in the western North Atlantic where it resulted in calmer weather and less pack ice around Greenland and in the Canadian Arctic.

Climatic warming may also have opened ice-blocked passages in the Canadian Arctic archipelago, allowing bowhead whales to travel freely between the Bering Sea and Baffin Bay. The appearance of bowhead bones in Thule culture sites in the Canadian arctic signals a major environmental, biological, and cultural change, all of which seems to have been related to climatic warming.


Pat Sutherland on Thule Eskimo
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By A.D. 500 Alaskan Eskimos had begun to develop the technology needed to capture and kill large baleen whales. When the ice passages that had previously blocked the Central Arctic opened, bowhead whales and Alaskan Thule culture hunters followed. Arriving in the Eastern Arctic, they-like the Norse-soon discovered they were not alone. These areas had been previously settled by Dorset people. Within a few hundred years the Dorsets were largely absorbed or replaced by the more aggressive and technologically advanced Thule people.



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Environmental studies have also suggested that the decline of whale-hunting that occurred in Central Arctic Thule culture after A.D. 1400 was caused by closure of the Central Arctic passage to large whales. The loss of whales forced Thule people to shift from whaling to ice-hole seal hunting throughout much of the central arctic. The onset of the Little Ice Age, well-documented in ice cores, pollen studies, and other sources, not only seems to have brought much of the Canadian arctic back to a Dorset-style economy. It also has been cited as the major cause for the extinction of the Greenland Norse colonies, for it is at this time that Thule Inuit begin to settle permanently in the area of the Norse settlements in southwest Greenland. Climatic cooling and the appearance of pack ice in southern Greenland is believed to have played a role in both the decline in productivity of the Norse farms and the expansion of the sea mammal-hunting Thule people. Even the Norse house fly had to abandon its old European Greenland home to make room for the companion fauna of the new Inuit residents!
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 10 Feb 2008, 23:14:04

An article on Sun cycles and Global Climate Change. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... warm05.xml
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby Narz » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 02:23:49

Makes me wish I had a TV.
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 08:44:21

The program was done very well...

Programs scheduled for March and April:
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 09:02:56

Stayed up and watched the whole two hours of it. Unfortunately it was nothing new, just the same predictions as always coupled with the statement repeated many times that 2 degrees was the critical limit and that we are at .8 degrees now (Centigrade).

They showed a simulation of the Arctic ice cap dissipearing but never even mentioned the events there of 2007!

It was as if they wrote a script from fall 2005 after Katrina, shelved it for two years, then produced it without updating for cablecast in 2008.

I was hoping for updated projections about what is going on in the Arctic NOW, not what we thought in 2005 which has been superceded by events in the intervening period.
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 09:34:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')t was as if they wrote a script from fall 2005 after Katrina, shelved it for two years, then produced it without updating for cablecast in 2008.


You may be right. I wonder if this was the first showing, or, if they were just now feeling comfortable about broadcasting it.
But, it was well done.

First, the History channel gets doomerish, now Nat. Geo.
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby dorlomin » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 09:40:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'T')hey will be growing grapes in England again.....
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Clueless. They have been growing wine in England on a comercial scale since the end of WWII.
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Re: TV: "6 Degrees Could Change the World"

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 14:27:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')t was as if they wrote a script from fall 2005 after Katrina, shelved it for two years, then produced it without updating for cablecast in 2008.


You may be right. I wonder if this was the first showing, or, if they were just now feeling comfortable about broadcasting it.
But, it was well done.

First, the History channel gets doomerish, now Nat. Geo.


Speaking of Natgeochannel during the 6 degrees program they were also promoting ther version of Life After People, I forget the name at the moment but it looked like the same story idea. Zoo animals escape preserves, monuments rust away to nothing, Hoover Dam collapses hundreds of years into the future....
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